Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1765629AbXJRRtk (ORCPT ); Thu, 18 Oct 2007 13:49:40 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1758312AbXJRRtc (ORCPT ); Thu, 18 Oct 2007 13:49:32 -0400 Received: from thunk.org ([69.25.196.29]:59332 "EHLO thunker.thunk.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1758153AbXJRRtb (ORCPT ); Thu, 18 Oct 2007 13:49:31 -0400 Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 13:49:25 -0400 From: Theodore Tso To: Kristen Carlson Accardi Cc: Mark Lord , Linux Kernel , Andrew Morton , greg@kroah.com, pcihpd-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] Fix two PEIe hotplug issues Message-ID: <20071018174925.GB4927@thunk.org> Mail-Followup-To: Theodore Tso , Kristen Carlson Accardi , Mark Lord , Linux Kernel , Andrew Morton , greg@kroah.com, pcihpd-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net References: <4716CB9D.6080503@rtr.ca> <4716CE79.7040201@rtr.ca> <20071018091347.4b94faf8.kristen.c.accardi@intel.com> <4717928D.6070703@rtr.ca> <20071018100614.435fe88c.kristen.c.accardi@intel.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20071018100614.435fe88c.kristen.c.accardi@intel.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.15+20070412 (2007-04-11) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: tytso@thunk.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on thunker.thunk.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 962 Lines: 22 On Thu, Oct 18, 2007 at 10:06:14AM -0700, Kristen Carlson Accardi wrote: > No, it actually does violate the spec. Feel free to read it yourself. > We are not supposed to do Native PCIe without first successfully executing > OSC. Period. If you do, you are violating the spec. To be fair, we have violated the spec before in order to get crappy hardware or to work around crappy ACPI implementations. acpi_sleep=s3_bios for example violates the spec, but yet it is the only way to get certain laptops to suspend/resume correctly. The question to ask is whether violating the spec will lead to (a) a potential system hang/crash, (b) data corruption, (c) physical harm to the device/laptop. Regards, - Ted - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/