Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1763777AbXJRVLT (ORCPT ); Thu, 18 Oct 2007 17:11:19 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1758897AbXJRVLN (ORCPT ); Thu, 18 Oct 2007 17:11:13 -0400 Received: from rtr.ca ([76.10.145.34]:4820 "EHLO mail.rtr.ca" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1758817AbXJRVLM (ORCPT ); Thu, 18 Oct 2007 17:11:12 -0400 Message-ID: <4717CBEC.4060403@rtr.ca> Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 17:11:08 -0400 From: Mark Lord User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kristen Carlson Accardi Cc: Theodore Tso , Linux Kernel , Andrew Morton , greg@kroah.com, pcihpd-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] Fix two PEIe hotplug issues References: <4716CB9D.6080503@rtr.ca> <4716CE79.7040201@rtr.ca> <20071018091347.4b94faf8.kristen.c.accardi@intel.com> <4717928D.6070703@rtr.ca> <20071018100614.435fe88c.kristen.c.accardi@intel.com> <20071018174925.GB4927@thunk.org> <20071018105601.27d96f7e.kristen.c.accardi@intel.com> In-Reply-To: <20071018105601.27d96f7e.kristen.c.accardi@intel.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1261 Lines: 29 Kristen Carlson Accardi wrote: > On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 13:49:25 -0400 > Theodore Tso wrote: > >> On Thu, Oct 18, 2007 at 10:06:14AM -0700, Kristen Carlson Accardi wrote: >>> No, it actually does violate the spec. Feel free to read it yourself. >>> We are not supposed to do Native PCIe without first successfully executing >>> OSC. Period. If you do, you are violating the spec. >> To be fair, we have violated the spec before in order to get crappy >> hardware or to work around crappy ACPI implementations. >> acpi_sleep=s3_bios for example violates the spec, but yet it is the >> only way to get certain laptops to suspend/resume correctly. >> >> The question to ask is whether violating the spec will lead to (a) a >> potential system hang/crash, (b) data corruption, (c) physical harm to >> the device/laptop. > > And the answer is most definitely yes to at least a) and c) on specific > hardware I know about. I'm hearing a lot of FUD here, with no details. Please, tell us more.. Thanks. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/