Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S966071AbXJSC4q (ORCPT ); Thu, 18 Oct 2007 22:56:46 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1759396AbXJSC4h (ORCPT ); Thu, 18 Oct 2007 22:56:37 -0400 Received: from srv5.dvmed.net ([207.36.208.214]:44206 "EHLO mail.dvmed.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754472AbXJSC4g (ORCPT ); Thu, 18 Oct 2007 22:56:36 -0400 Message-ID: <47181CE1.4000802@garzik.org> Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 22:56:33 -0400 From: Jeff Garzik User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (X11/20070727) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: peer chen CC: linux-kernel , linux-ide , akpm , Kuan Luo Subject: Re: [PATCH] sata_nv,ahci: add the ahci legacy mode support to sata_nv References: <200709251323031982245@gmail.com> <470FE47B.5060505@garzik.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -4.4 (----) X-Spam-Report: SpamAssassin version 3.1.9 on srv5.dvmed.net summary: Content analysis details: (-4.4 points, 5.0 required) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1633 Lines: 42 peer chen wrote: > I hope one of the following patches can be merged to 2.6.24. > ========================== > http://lkml.org/lkml/2007/10/8/93 > http://lkml.org/lkml/2007/9/25/20 Unfortunately I do not feel like this is the right course of action. Experience from Intel platforms tells us that our users get very unhappy when their silicon supports AHCI mode, but they are forced into using a less-performant mode. A popular example is an OEM whose BIOS had no method whatsoever for enabling AHCI -- didn't even program the PCI BAR -- even though tests showed the AHCI mode worked just fine when manually programmed. AHCI is more likely to provide a /stable/ Serial ATA experience, because the silicon deals primarily with sending and receiving FIS's, and not much else. In constrast, experience has shown the legacy IDE interface to be a less reliable method of SATA support. And certainly AHCI is much, much faster with less per-command overhead. Given that AHCI is both faster and more stable, I feel it is the best policy to enable AHCI when the hardware supports it, regardless of PCI class code (IDE, SATA, or RAID). > Yes, I agree to set the 'swncq' as default for 2.6.24, after all, for > our server customers, stability is far more important than the new > feature no matter the problem is caused by drive or controller. Agreed. Done! Jeff - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/