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[98.249.43.138]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id v11-20020a05622a130b00b003f3c9754e1dsm3581136qtk.17.2023.06.22.06.11.18 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 22 Jun 2023 06:11:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <139acc54-d24c-5437-7a9d-fa2438fffba4@joelfernandes.org> Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2023 09:11:17 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.11.0 Subject: Re: [PATCH 08/15] sched: Commit to EEVDF Content-Language: en-US To: Ingo Molnar Cc: Peter Zijlstra , vincent.guittot@linaro.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, juri.lelli@redhat.com, dietmar.eggemann@arm.com, rostedt@goodmis.org, bsegall@google.com, mgorman@suse.de, bristot@redhat.com, corbet@lwn.net, qyousef@layalina.io, chris.hyser@oracle.com, patrick.bellasi@matbug.net, pjt@google.com, pavel@ucw.cz, qperret@google.com, tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com, joshdon@google.com, timj@gnu.org, kprateek.nayak@amd.com, yu.c.chen@intel.com, youssefesmat@chromium.org, efault@gmx.de, tglx@linutronix.de References: <20230531115839.089944915@infradead.org> <20230531124604.137187212@infradead.org> <20230616212353.GA628850@google.com> From: Joel Fernandes In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,NICE_REPLY_A,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on lindbergh.monkeyblade.net Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 6/22/23 08:01, Ingo Molnar wrote: > > * Joel Fernandes wrote: > >> On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 01:58:47PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote: >>> EEVDF is a better defined scheduling policy, as a result it has less >>> heuristics/tunables. There is no compelling reason to keep CFS around. >>> >>> Signed-off-by: Peter Zijlstra (Intel) >>> --- >>> kernel/sched/debug.c | 6 >>> kernel/sched/fair.c | 465 +++--------------------------------------------- >> >> Whether EEVDF helps us improve our CFS latency issues or not, I do like the >> merits of this diffstat alone and the lesser complexity and getting rid of >> those horrible knobs is kinda nice. > > To to be fair, the "removal" in this patch is in significant part an > artifact of the patch series itself, because first EEVDF bits get added by > three earlier patches, in parallel to CFS: > > kernel/sched/fair.c | 137 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-- > kernel/sched/fair.c | 162 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++----------- > kernel/sched/fair.c | 338 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++------- > > ... and then we remove the old CFS policy code in this 'commit to EEVDF' patch: > > kernel/sched/fair.c | 465 +++--------------------------------------------- > > The combined diffstat is close to 50% / 50% balanced: > > kernel/sched/fair.c | 1105 ++++++++++++++++++-------------------- > > But having said that, I do agree that EEVDF as submitted by Peter is better > defined, with fewer heuristics, which is an overall win - so no complaints > from me! Agreed, thank you for correcting me on the statistics. - Joel