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Thu, 29 Jun 2023 15:00:40 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2023 20:48:42 +0200 From: Greg KH To: Mark Brown Cc: Srinivas Kandagatla , johan+linaro@kernel.org, perex@perex.cz, tiwai@suse.com, lgirdwood@gmail.com, ckeepax@opensource.cirrus.com, kuninori.morimoto.gx@renesas.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, pierre-louis.bossart@linux.intel.com, alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, Stable@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] ASoC: qdsp6: q6apm: use dai link pcm id as pcm device number Message-ID: <2023062905-tiring-bauble-84ef@gregkh> References: <20230628092404.13927-1-srinivas.kandagatla@linaro.org> <2023062940-snore-brick-419b@gregkh> <9699a960-74b0-4064-b264-6cde06cd16fc@sirena.org.uk> <2023062958-thumping-ambulance-7a2f@gregkh> <1c1dd19e-cbc4-41fe-9e97-a07cfebdaa4b@sirena.org.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1c1dd19e-cbc4-41fe-9e97-a07cfebdaa4b@sirena.org.uk> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_HELO_PASS, SPF_PASS,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on lindbergh.monkeyblade.net Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, Jun 29, 2023 at 06:38:38PM +0100, Mark Brown wrote: > On Thu, Jun 29, 2023 at 07:22:51PM +0200, Greg KH wrote: > > > It shouldn't matter for stable or not, if the change is acceptable in > > Linus's tree, with the userspace visable change, then it should be > > acceptable in any active stable branch as well. There is no difference > > here for userspace api/abi rules. > > As discussed before your tolerance for risk in stable is *far* higher > than mine, if there's any value in doing this at all it's probably > within what would get taken but that doesn't mean that it's something > that it's sensible to highlight as an important fix like tagging for > stable does. It's extremely unclear that it fits the severity criteria > that are supposed to be being applied to stable, though obviously the > documentation doesn't fit the actual practice these days. It's not a matter of "tolerance for risk", it's a "if this change is good enough for future releases, why isn't it good enough for older releases as well?" As you know, we don't break user interfaces, so either this is a break or it isn't, stable trees have nothing to do with it as a normal user would "hit" this when updating to run Linus's tree, just as easily as they would "hit" it updating their stable kernel version. thanks, greg k-h