Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 15:31:53 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 15:31:39 -0500 Received: from adsl-64-109-202-217.dsl.milwwi.ameritech.net ([64.109.202.217]:9721 "EHLO alphaflight.d6.dnsalias.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 15:30:21 -0500 Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 14:30:19 -0600 From: "M. R. Brown" To: "Grover, Andrew" Cc: "'Alexander Viro'" , "'linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org'" , "'otto.wyss@bluewin.ch'" Subject: Re: Booting a modular kernel through a multiple streams file Message-ID: <20011218203019.GC9314@0xd6.org> In-Reply-To: <59885C5E3098D511AD690002A5072D3C42D804@orsmsx111.jf.intel.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="2/5bycvrmDh4d1IB" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <59885C5E3098D511AD690002A5072D3C42D804@orsmsx111.jf.intel.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.24i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org --2/5bycvrmDh4d1IB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable * Grover, Andrew on Tue, Dec 18, 2001: > > From: Alexander Viro [mailto:viro@math.psu.edu] > > On Tue, 18 Dec 2001, Grover, Andrew wrote: > > > GRUB 0.90 does this today. > > ... and I'm quite sure that EMACS could do it easily. Let's not talk > > about GNU bloatware, OK? >=20 > I don't think this is bloatware, especially considering there really isn't > any cost for having a full-featured bootloader - all its footprint gets > reclaimed, after all. I respect lilo and its cousins, but they make things > harder than they have to be. Why maintain a reduced level of functionality > (software emaciation?) when better alternatives are available? >=20 Available for what? SuperH? MIPS? IA-64? Your precious GRUB and Multiboot "standard" are only ever useful on the x86 architecture, so you would propose a x86-specific global change that doesn't benefit the rest of the other kernel archs? Bloat for the sake of? >=20 > > IOW, we are backwards compatible with old > > loaders. >=20 > No progress will ever be made if we cater to the lowest common denominato= r. >=20 The i386. M. R. --2/5bycvrmDh4d1IB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8H6dbaK6pP/GNw0URAoUDAJ0d2FacdHI23VQbs/EPUk4rqrpGWwCfeC21 UCqbewW8pbD68t2nji6Khd4= =pA/8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --2/5bycvrmDh4d1IB-- - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/