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Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 19:18:00 +0600
From: "Alexander E. Patrakov" <patrakov@ums.usu.ru>
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To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
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Subject: Re: tristate and bool not enogh for Kconfig anymore
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Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 22, 2007 at 05:27:51PM +0600, Alexander E. Patrakov wrote:
>   
>> Yes, there is a call to usermodehelper_init() before the initcalls in 
>> do_basic_setup(), this does mean that firmware can be loaded by means of 
>> the old and obsolete /sbin/hotplug mechanism, but who has /sbin/hotplug now?
>>     
>
> I do.  We're not going to cripple the kernel just because you use <censored> userspace.
>
>   
AFAIK, there were good reasons (effect similar to fork bomb on a system 
with large number of, e.g., SCSI disks - Greg KH obviously knows more 
details) to drop /sbin/hotplug from all distributions in favour of udev. 
Anyway, the "hotplug" package is no longer supported by its author. So 
there is no option to use a non-<censored> from your viewpoint but still 
supported-upstream userspace.

As already mentioned in a different subthread, the solution is to wait 
for the firmware in the background, so that the built-in case also 
starts working. Drivers that don't do this (e.g. qla2xxx) must be fixed, 
but for now, IMHO, it does make sense to mark them as non-working in the 
non-modular case.

-- 
Alexander E. Patrakov
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