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Wong" Cc: Kent Overstreet , Josef Bacik , torvalds@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-bcachefs@vger.kernel.org, dchinner@redhat.com, sandeen@redhat.com, willy@infradead.org, tytso@mit.edu, bfoster@redhat.com, jack@suse.cz, andreas.gruenbacher@gmail.com, peterz@infradead.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org, dhowells@redhat.com Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] bcachefs Message-ID: <20230707-badeverbot-gekettet-19ce3c238dac@brauner> References: <20230626214656.hcp4puionmtoloat@moria.home.lan> <20230706155602.mnhsylo3pnief2of@moria.home.lan> <20230706164055.GA2306489@perftesting> <20230706173819.36c67pf42ba4gmv4@moria.home.lan> <20230706211914.GB11476@frogsfrogsfrogs> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20230706211914.GB11476@frogsfrogsfrogs> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIMWL_WL_HIGH, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on lindbergh.monkeyblade.net Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org > just merge it and let's move on to the next thing." "and let the block and vfs maintainers and developers deal with the fallout" is how that reads to others that deal with 65+ filesystems and counting. The offlist thread that was started by Kent before this pr was sent has seen people try to outline calmly what problems they currently still have both maintenance wise and upstreaming wise. And it seems there's just no way this can go over calmly but instead requires massive amounts of defensive pushback and grandstanding. Our main task here is to consider the concerns of people that constantly review and rework massive amounts of generic code. And I can't in good conscience see their concerns dismissed with snappy quotes. I understand the impatience, I understand the excitement, I really do. But not in this way where core people just drop off because they don't want to deal with this anymore. I've spent enough time on this thread.