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From:   Kent Overstreet <kent.overstreet@linux.dev>
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On Fri, Jul 07, 2023 at 01:04:14PM -0400, James Bottomley wrote:
> On Fri, 2023-07-07 at 12:48 -0400, Kent Overstreet wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 07, 2023 at 12:26:19PM -0400, James Bottomley wrote:
> > > On Fri, 2023-07-07 at 05:18 -0400, Kent Overstreet wrote:
> [...]
> > > > In that offlist thread, I don't recall much in the way of actual,
> > > > concrete concerns. I do recall Christoph doing his usual schpiel;
> > > > and to be clear, I cut short my interactions with Christoph
> > > > because in nearly 15 years of kernel development he's never been
> > > > anything but hostile to anything I've posted, and the criticisms
> > > > he posts tend to be vague and unaware of the surrounding
> > > > discussion, not anything actionable.
> > > 
> > > This too is a red flag.  Working with difficult people is one of a
> > > maintainer's jobs as well.  Christoph has done an enormous amount
> > > of highly productive work over the years.  Sure, he's prickly and
> > > sure there have been fights, but everyone except you seems to
> > > manage to patch things up and accept his contributions.  If it were
> > > just one personal problem it might be overlookable, but you seem to
> > > be having major fights with the maintainer of every subsystem you
> > > touch...
> > 
> > James, I will bend over backwards to work with people who will work
> > to continue the technical discussion.
> 
> You will?  Because that doesn't seem to align with your statement about
> Christoph being "vague and unaware of the surrounding discussions" and
> not posting "anything actionable" for the last 15 years.  No-one else
> has that impression and we've almost all had run-ins with Christoph at
> some point.

If I'm going to respond to this I'd have to start citing interactions
and I don't want to dig things that deep in public.

Can we either try to resolve this privately or drop it?