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Miller" , Linux Kernel Mailing List , Linux Networking , Linux USB , Oliver Neukum References: <7ea9abd8-c35d-d329-f0d4-c8bd220cf691@gmail.com> <50f4c10d-260c-cb98-e7d2-124f5519fa68@gmail.com> <62a9e058-c853-1fcd-5663-e2e001f881e9@bigpond.com> <14fd48c8-3955-c933-ab6f-329e54da090f@bigpond.com> <05a229e8-b0b6-4d29-8561-70d02f6dc31b@lunn.ch> <20230710095519.5056c98b@kernel.org> From: "Linux regression tracking (Thorsten Leemhuis)" Reply-To: Linux regressions mailing list In-Reply-To: <20230710095519.5056c98b@kernel.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-bounce-key: webpack.hosteurope.de;regressions@leemhuis.info;1689008961;6a1d2bdd; X-HE-SMSGID: 1qIuNj-000676-Ls X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,NICE_REPLY_A, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on lindbergh.monkeyblade.net Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 10.07.23 18:55, Jakub Kicinski wrote: > On Sun, 9 Jul 2023 06:36:32 +0200 Linux regression tracking (Thorsten > Leemhuis) wrote: >> To chime in here: I most agree, but FWIW, it broke more than a decade >> ago in v3.0, so maybe this is better suited for net-next. But of course >> that up to the -net maintainers. > > I'm surprised to see you suggest -next for a fix to a user reported bug. > IMO it's very firmly net material. Yes, yes, normally it would argue the other way around. :-D But Linus a few times in one way or another argued that time is a factor when it comes to regressions. Here for example: https://lore.kernel.org/all/CAHk-=wis_qQy4oDNynNKi5b7Qhosmxtoj1jxo5wmB6SRUwQUBQ@mail.gmail.com/ But there are no "semantic changes that now mean that fixing the regression could cause a _new_ regression" here I guess. And what he was talking about there is quite different from this case as well (I vaguely remember a better example, but I can't find it; whatever). In the end this is one of issue where I don't care much. :-D Ciao, Thorsten