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[2620:137:e000::1:20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id b13-20020a1709063f8d00b00988768b4775si1391562ejj.197.2023.07.11.01.16.00; Tue, 11 Jul 2023 01:16:24 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::1:20 as permitted sender) client-ip=2620:137:e000::1:20; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@kernel.org header.s=k20201202 header.b="jpAl+B/L"; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::1:20 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S229658AbjGKIAb (ORCPT + 99 others); Tue, 11 Jul 2023 04:00:31 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:33082 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S229458AbjGKIAa (ORCPT ); Tue, 11 Jul 2023 04:00:30 -0400 Received: from dfw.source.kernel.org (dfw.source.kernel.org [139.178.84.217]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 20633AF for ; Tue, 11 Jul 2023 01:00:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.kernel.org (relay.kernel.org [52.25.139.140]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by dfw.source.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AFD426136E for ; Tue, 11 Jul 2023 08:00:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 60765C433C7; Tue, 11 Jul 2023 08:00:27 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1689062428; bh=Vh8wJERkeoJAH7WZTn6GTTqD0L/T8dhTkMXGSs9gnIU=; h=Date:Subject:From:To:Cc:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=jpAl+B/LrT3bdYz0t+fF6kSb10UGId090DOAV8pHKt0KOR35ExAOC2E9c6Sqmxk11 55V/GIGiaSqwg8OCp5F+J4MOLOGINGqkpeNHZAJTxpgA6y7AiTuk50LmhNI7/4t8Ll FjYeGyQdtpYi5svnFYmxRGMpBrq/deVqoy5X5YnUy0xGuNx/PHR6zu0yVLb9jE4ux7 uyyC8es16WDa3nqdI9rDq75XxdNznZw7EYrKOyLYEpKsflY9YnOikXRNOS5gItCO97 gAnlEJ3m2On+K9Mk4xg0582JdV9tVKyr3HVVDzZaWwJrzHx7Ju7CCmUP/l7yeEGSDC 3P1qkRM0huGrA== Message-ID: <94b767a3-e768-54d6-3653-90aeaf8edd4a@kernel.org> Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2023 16:00:25 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.13.0 Subject: Re: [f2fs-dev] [PATCH v2] f2fs: do not issue small discard commands during checkpoint Content-Language: en-US From: Chao Yu To: Jaegeuk Kim Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net References: <20230613203947.2745943-1-jaegeuk@kernel.org> <50d5fa8c-4fe9-8a03-be78-0b5383e55b62@kernel.org> <65143701-4c19-ab66-1500-abd1162639cd@kernel.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIMWL_WL_HIGH, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,NICE_REPLY_A, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on lindbergh.monkeyblade.net Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 2023/7/6 8:46, Chao Yu wrote: > On 2023/7/6 1:30, Jaegeuk Kim wrote: >> On 07/04, Chao Yu wrote: >>> On 2023/7/4 18:53, Jaegeuk Kim wrote: >>>> On 07/03, Chao Yu wrote: >>>>> On 2023/6/15 0:10, Jaegeuk Kim wrote: >>>>>> If there're huge # of small discards, this will increase checkpoint latency >>>>>> insanely. Let's issue small discards only by trim. >>>>>> >>>>>> Signed-off-by: Jaegeuk Kim >>>>>> --- >>>>>> >>>>>>     Change log from v1: >>>>>>      - move the skip logic to avoid dangling objects >>>>>> >>>>>>     fs/f2fs/segment.c | 2 +- >>>>>>     1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-) >>>>>> >>>>>> diff --git a/fs/f2fs/segment.c b/fs/f2fs/segment.c >>>>>> index 8c7af8b4fc47..0457d620011f 100644 >>>>>> --- a/fs/f2fs/segment.c >>>>>> +++ b/fs/f2fs/segment.c >>>>>> @@ -2193,7 +2193,7 @@ void f2fs_clear_prefree_segments(struct f2fs_sb_info *sbi, >>>>>>                 len = next_pos - cur_pos; >>>>>>                 if (f2fs_sb_has_blkzoned(sbi) || >>>>>> -                (force && len < cpc->trim_minlen)) >>>>>> +                    !force || len < cpc->trim_minlen) >>>>>>                     goto skip; >>>>> >>>>> Sorry for late reply. >>>>> >>>>> We have a configuration for such case, what do you think of setting >>>>> max_small_discards to zero? otherwise, w/ above change, max_small_discards >>>>> logic may be broken? >>>>> >>>>> What:           /sys/fs/f2fs//max_small_discards >>>>> Date:           November 2013 >>>>> Contact:        "Jaegeuk Kim" >>>>> Description:    Controls the issue rate of discard commands that consist of small >>>>>                   blocks less than 2MB. The candidates to be discarded are cached until >>>>>                   checkpoint is triggered, and issued during the checkpoint. >>>>>                   By default, it is disabled with 0. >>>>> >>>>> Or, if we prefer to disable small_discards by default, what about below change: >>>> >>>> I think small_discards is fine, but need to avoid long checkpoint latency only. >>> >>> I didn't get you, do you mean we can still issue small discard by >>> fstrim, so small_discards functionality is fine? >> >> You got the point. > > Well, actually, what I mean is max_small_discards sysfs entry's functionality > is broken. Now, the entry can not be used to control number of small discards > committed by checkpoint. > > I think there is another way to achieve "avoid long checkpoint latency caused > by committing huge # of small discards", the way is we can set max_small_discards > to small value or zero, w/ such configuration, it will take checkpoint much less > time or no time to committing small discard due to below control logic: Jaegeuk, any comments? Thanks, > > f2fs_flush_sit_entries() > { > ... >             if (!(cpc->reason & CP_DISCARD)) { >                 cpc->trim_start = segno; >                 add_discard_addrs(sbi, cpc, false); >             } > ... > } > > add_discard_addrs() > { > ... >     while (force || SM_I(sbi)->dcc_info->nr_discards <= >                 SM_I(sbi)->dcc_info->max_discards) { > > It will break the loop once nr_discards is larger than max_discards, if > max_discards is set to zero, checkpoint won't take time to handle small discards. > > ... >         if (!de) { >             de = f2fs_kmem_cache_alloc(discard_entry_slab, >                         GFP_F2FS_ZERO, true, NULL); >             de->start_blkaddr = START_BLOCK(sbi, cpc->trim_start); >             list_add_tail(&de->list, head); >         } > ... >     } > ... > > Thanks, > >> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>   From eb89d9b56e817e3046d7fa17165b12416f09d456 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 >>>>> From: Chao Yu >>>>> Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2023 09:06:53 +0800 >>>>> Subject: [PATCH] Revert "f2fs: enable small discard by default" >>>>> >>>>> This reverts commit d618ebaf0aa83d175658aea5291e0c459d471d39 in order >>>>> to disable small discard by default, so that if there're huge number of >>>>> small discards, it will decrease checkpoint's latency obviously. >>>>> >>>>> Also, this patch reverts 9ac00e7cef10 ("f2fs: do not issue small discard >>>>> commands during checkpoint"), due to it breaks small discard feature which >>>>> may be configured via sysfs entry max_small_discards. >>>>> >>>>> Fixes: 9ac00e7cef10 ("f2fs: do not issue small discard commands during checkpoint") >>>>> Signed-off-by: Chao Yu >>>>> --- >>>>>    fs/f2fs/segment.c | 4 ++-- >>>>>    1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) >>>>> >>>>> diff --git a/fs/f2fs/segment.c b/fs/f2fs/segment.c >>>>> index 14c822e5c9c9..0a313368f18b 100644 >>>>> --- a/fs/f2fs/segment.c >>>>> +++ b/fs/f2fs/segment.c >>>>> @@ -2193,7 +2193,7 @@ void f2fs_clear_prefree_segments(struct f2fs_sb_info *sbi, >>>>>                len = next_pos - cur_pos; >>>>> >>>>>                if (f2fs_sb_has_blkzoned(sbi) || >>>>> -                    !force || len < cpc->trim_minlen) >>>>> +                (force && len < cpc->trim_minlen)) >>>>>                    goto skip; >>>>> >>>>>                f2fs_issue_discard(sbi, entry->start_blkaddr + cur_pos, >>>>> @@ -2269,7 +2269,7 @@ static int create_discard_cmd_control(struct f2fs_sb_info *sbi) >>>>>        atomic_set(&dcc->queued_discard, 0); >>>>>        atomic_set(&dcc->discard_cmd_cnt, 0); >>>>>        dcc->nr_discards = 0; >>>>> -    dcc->max_discards = MAIN_SEGS(sbi) << sbi->log_blocks_per_seg; >>>>> +    dcc->max_discards = 0; >>>>>        dcc->max_discard_request = DEF_MAX_DISCARD_REQUEST; >>>>>        dcc->min_discard_issue_time = DEF_MIN_DISCARD_ISSUE_TIME; >>>>>        dcc->mid_discard_issue_time = DEF_MID_DISCARD_ISSUE_TIME; >>>>> -- >>>>> 2.40.1 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>                 f2fs_issue_discard(sbi, entry->start_blkaddr + cur_pos, > > > _______________________________________________ > Linux-f2fs-devel mailing list > Linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-f2fs-devel