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[209.85.219.176]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id s2-20020a81bf42000000b0057d24f8278bsm631250ywk.104.2023.07.12.02.04.31 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 12 Jul 2023 02:04:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-yb1-f176.google.com with SMTP id 3f1490d57ef6-bc379e4c1cbso7766516276.2; Wed, 12 Jul 2023 02:04:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a05:6902:28b:b0:c4b:41ce:f68b with SMTP id v11-20020a056902028b00b00c4b41cef68bmr16459258ybh.41.1689152670844; Wed, 12 Jul 2023 02:04:30 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20230511181931.869812-1-tj@kernel.org> <20230511181931.869812-7-tj@kernel.org> <20230712080504.GA3100107@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> In-Reply-To: <20230712080504.GA3100107@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> From: Geert Uytterhoeven Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2023 11:04:16 +0200 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: Consider switching to WQ_UNBOUND messages (was: Re: [PATCH v2 6/7] workqueue: Report work funcs that trigger automatic CPU_INTENSIVE mechanism) To: Peter Zijlstra Cc: Tejun Heo , Lai Jiangshan , "torvalds@linux-foundation.org" , Linux Kernel Mailing List , kernel-team@meta.com, Linux PM list , DRI Development , linux-rtc@vger.kernel.org, linux-riscv , netdev , Linux Fbdev development list , Linux MMC List , "open list:LIBATA SUBSYSTEM (Serial and Parallel ATA drivers)" , Linux-Renesas Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on lindbergh.monkeyblade.net Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Hoi Peter, On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 10:05 AM Peter Zijlstra wrote: > On Tue, Jul 11, 2023 at 11:39:17AM -1000, Tejun Heo wrote: > > I wonder whether the right thing to do here is somehow scaling the threshold > > according to the relative processing power. It's difficult to come up with a > > threshold which works well across the latest & fastest and really tiny CPUs. > > I'll think about it some more but if you have some ideas, please feel free > > to suggest. > > We could scale by BogoMIPS I suppose, it's a bogus measurement, as per > the name, but it does have some relation to how fast the machine is. That's gonna fail miserably on e.g. ARM and RISC-V, where BogoMIPS depends on some timer frequency. R-Car M2-W with 1.5 GHz Cortex-A15: 40.00 BogoMIPS R-Car V4H with 1.8 GHz Cortex-A76: 33.33 BogoMIPS while the real slow 48 MHz VexRiscV gets 128 BogoMIPS. Gr{oetje,eeting}s, Geert -- Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that. -- Linus Torvalds