Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 15:19:30 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 15:19:25 -0500 Received: from mail.xmailserver.org ([208.129.208.52]:49419 "EHLO mail.xmailserver.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 15:18:49 -0500 Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 12:21:39 -0800 (PST) From: Davide Libenzi X-X-Sender: davide@blue1.dev.mcafeelabs.com To: Ben LaHaise cc: Linus Torvalds , , Subject: Re: aio In-Reply-To: <20011219135708.A12608@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, 19 Dec 2001, Ben LaHaise wrote: > Thanks for the useful feedback on the userland interface then. Evidently > nobody cares within the community about improving functionality on a > reasonable timescale. If this doesn't change soon, Linux is doomed. Ben, maybe it's true, nobody cares :( This could be either bad or good. On one side it could be good because this means that everyone is happy with the kernel performance level and this could be due the fact that real world loads does not put their applications under stress. It could be bad because it's possible that exist applications that are currently under stress ( yes ), but their developers do not understand that by using different interfaces they can improve their software ( or they simply do not understand that the application is under stress ). Or maybe application developers are not in lk. Or maybe they're not willing to rewrite/experiment new APIs. On one side i understand that you can have an intrinsic attitude to push/defend your patch, while one the other side i can agree with the Linus point to have some kind of broad discussion/adoption about it. But if applications developers are not in this list there won't be a broad discussion and if the patch does not go inside the mainstream kernel "external" applications developers are not going to use it. The Linus point could be: "why do i have to merge a new api that has had a so cold discussion/adoption inside lk ?". Yes egg-chicken draws the picture very well. - Davide - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/