Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1762093AbXJYPVB (ORCPT ); Thu, 25 Oct 2007 11:21:01 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1759192AbXJYPUx (ORCPT ); Thu, 25 Oct 2007 11:20:53 -0400 Received: from tim.rpsys.net ([194.106.48.114]:48445 "EHLO tim.rpsys.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1758180AbXJYPUx (ORCPT ); Thu, 25 Oct 2007 11:20:53 -0400 Subject: Linux machines dieing in swap storms From: Richard Purdie To: LKML Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 16:20:41 +0100 Message-Id: <1193325641.5776.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.10.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2437 Lines: 52 I've got a problem I keep running into. My computers have buggy software which can sometimes run out of control. Two specific examples: Evolution: Sometimes its memory usage decides to suddenly grow out of control. It usually idles at around 300MB, you can watch it in top, doubling, trebling and ending up going past the 1200MB mark. My system has 1.5GB ram and you notice it swapping heavily past say 800MB. Spamassassin: If my mail server log files hit the 2GB file size limit of the filesystem something strange happens and for whatever reason spamd suddenly starts growing in memory usage until it uses up all available system memory. Arguably both pieces of software are buggy, I accept that, fine. In both machines in totally different circumstances what happens next is bad. The systems swap more and more heavily trying to cope with these out of control processes. Network interactivity stops. The swap storm gets so bad you can't log onto the console any more. I've left machines in this state for 1-2 hours and they don't come back. Watching the console, the OOM killer does kick in but it never kills the problem process (both spamd and evolution are long running processes that have suddenly gone out of control). In then end, you have to hit the reset switch :(. This happened to my desktop once again about 10 minutes ago and its *extremely* frustrating. Sometimes I can catch and kill the offending process but I shouldn't have to. This isn't a new problem. My mail server used to be running an ancient 2.6.12 kernel and I upgraded it to 2.6.22.X in an effort to solve this problem which no change. My desktop shows exactly the same kind of OOM swap storm behaviour (2.6.20 based). I realise that tuning the OOM killer is a really tricky problem but something needs improving as the current user experience is broken. I'm seriously tempted to add a "kill the process using the most memory" key combination into SysRq which might let me save the desktop but won't help with my remote server. I could also just disable swap I guess. Advice on solving this welcome preferably in mainline but I'll happily hack my kernels with a workaround if need be. Cheers, Richard - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/