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[2620:137:e000::1:20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id f2-20020a056a00228200b00659af029c39si2135861pfe.90.2023.07.18.13.08.26; Tue, 18 Jul 2023 13:08:39 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::1:20 as permitted sender) client-ip=2620:137:e000::1:20; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@kernel.org header.s=k20201202 header.b=lgSBOvWQ; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::1:20 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S230411AbjGRTzp (ORCPT + 99 others); Tue, 18 Jul 2023 15:55:45 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:37400 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S229504AbjGRTzn (ORCPT ); Tue, 18 Jul 2023 15:55:43 -0400 Received: from dfw.source.kernel.org (dfw.source.kernel.org [139.178.84.217]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4102E198E; Tue, 18 Jul 2023 12:55:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.kernel.org (relay.kernel.org [52.25.139.140]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by dfw.source.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D196D60B45; Tue, 18 Jul 2023 19:55:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 42D68C433C7; Tue, 18 Jul 2023 19:55:40 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1689710142; bh=gshhwkunm0Nkznr6q9yEkdRdIiyNHnhVMZurRxoSIOQ=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=lgSBOvWQdpxF3liRy3mjW5e2MFL87uVxkeVJ1V2wPudywexzVM18dF3ko8cfRL/EH +VwKa8cr4Kojk/tBS5K9Qgl/+UXz39EWbpO3NmAtzd6k3bK6WcfCseH6RjE4b9UEcm mXH6ANOp6IJ5J4HdWrjaWQ2bH7ueTtEr2KM+8PHf40GJni1e8zVZaR9s5f7b4rCTZv jWVCDticxRP5dKAu4n0O0N+dSF/tm9SBR1ORKXtt5NZBYCmt29WxD09jfTvNVNotFL HRTWsdMlFS+2DBMXp81oqy6bufzJUfwty4TFn9hCwiv1zt0UbDxJBxcaLPon+du3S8 Cdw8dFvA/BYxQ== Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2023 20:55:37 +0100 From: Mark Brown To: Jakub Kicinski Cc: corbet@lwn.net, workflows@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org, gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, linux@leemhuis.info, krzk@kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH docs v2] docs: maintainer: document expectations of small time maintainers Message-ID: <71224ff9-98d0-4148-afb8-d35b45519c79@sirena.org.uk> References: <20230718155814.1674087-1-kuba@kernel.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="LSdGOUQcgKsH6g7g" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20230718155814.1674087-1-kuba@kernel.org> X-Cookie: You are as I am with You. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIMWL_WL_HIGH, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on lindbergh.monkeyblade.net Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org --LSdGOUQcgKsH6g7g Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 08:58:14AM -0700, Jakub Kicinski wrote: > We appear to have a gap in our process docs. We go into detail > on how to contribute code to the kernel, and how to be a subsystem > maintainer. I can't find any docs directed towards the thousands > of small scale maintainers, like folks maintaining a single driver > or a single network protocol. I'm not super comfortable with all of the musts here but this is probably fine so Reviewed-by: Mark Brown One note: > +Maintainers must be human, however, it is not acceptable to add a mailing > +list or a group email as a maintainer. Trust and understanding are the > +foundation of kernel maintenance and one cannot build trust with a mailing > +list. If you're revising this I'd add a note about the L: tag in MAINTAINERS here, or possibly just adding a list in addition to humans. It is sensible and often helpful for companies to want to get mail copied to a wider distribution list internally but they're not really what we mean by list since external people typically can't join them. --LSdGOUQcgKsH6g7g Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAABCgAdFiEEreZoqmdXGLWf4p/qJNaLcl1Uh9AFAmS27jgACgkQJNaLcl1U h9CIIgf+LLz2FFY+gdDkyU+XJv8nVYZJr7tmYVzdbjT94MAsKgVXjd/DcXrUdISB gItU3VHXnC2vXX+rgEUOSZwEBQ2HXi/Grj4As79eV6n29QwE4yMDZ2GIOhcDKqvH 2GZGDLYaShzkKQNzin2eyCkjVd9ZCquoNCpU8trTaUz56uX3DmuyD2JwqDWnqX1v OkPdZHhfAF1jy9XPo1CNXMjgnhP3yNawqptigD7c/bVGY76VjwJ0pphpPij93BQl eHMTeQceIZGAPnDtxJAcxFHojjZ9UoHPcit1hMLuIn4xSIIMMOJDVS2fyrcLTynJ qg2xILiUbAc4zJlKhCe2eLYe8eM4sg== =guc9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --LSdGOUQcgKsH6g7g--