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[2620:137:e000::1:20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id m4-20020a635804000000b0053fbe7c8d3dsi3801533pgb.632.2023.07.19.11.59.52; Wed, 19 Jul 2023 12:00:05 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::1:20 as permitted sender) client-ip=2620:137:e000::1:20; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@kernel.org header.s=k20201202 header.b=OtcJycs6; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::1:20 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S230120AbjGSSg0 (ORCPT + 99 others); Wed, 19 Jul 2023 14:36:26 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:57010 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S229531AbjGSSgZ (ORCPT ); Wed, 19 Jul 2023 14:36:25 -0400 Received: from dfw.source.kernel.org (dfw.source.kernel.org [IPv6:2604:1380:4641:c500::1]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 62DEFB6; Wed, 19 Jul 2023 11:36:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.kernel.org (relay.kernel.org [52.25.139.140]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by dfw.source.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EA321617C7; Wed, 19 Jul 2023 18:36:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 147F2C433C7; Wed, 19 Jul 2023 18:36:23 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1689791783; bh=i0UCInbZcP5QkOgVWTWoZZYo5sBM7w7AUy/qgXJAKqA=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=OtcJycs603KfeRaT7rm5I5qvi48ExseEPsUdOgdmUBJ+C9LuJxtAuAQ2gk3ug8Kg+ Hfq7atKHckdBgbpkYNQOeTF327nRkSySRlK/1pLVPoCrXFf37SPu7KutRPZHnw1Uwf L+MM7I2XhptQuRIWhhM/vRuFHrF7vq8xbLORk8CKC517+UpSu0juNbFRxe391V6fnz algtCABm3I8s9kfiJwZYCO8tvF4ITYt47UZyLSau7rsGSRzCLNzwfRS74BPhRPI553 nHxZNYeqsMN9q941DQUgojKWi3PrZxnyrPUELjCMjzJk3Ax4GitepwC9AtARTMXvAx f2ap+e9JCDMQw== Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2023 11:36:22 -0700 From: Jakub Kicinski To: Rob Herring Cc: corbet@lwn.net, workflows@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org, gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, linux@leemhuis.info, broonie@kernel.org, krzk@kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH docs v2] docs: maintainer: document expectations of small time maintainers Message-ID: <20230719113622.27afb5f0@kernel.org> In-Reply-To: References: <20230718155814.1674087-1-kuba@kernel.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIMWL_WL_HIGH, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on lindbergh.monkeyblade.net Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, 19 Jul 2023 11:54:53 -0600 Rob Herring wrote: > > We appear to have a gap in our process docs. We go into detail > > on how to contribute code to the kernel, and how to be a subsystem > > maintainer. I can't find any docs directed towards the thousands > > of small scale maintainers, like folks maintaining a single driver > > or a single network protocol. > > I think the split is great. It would be even better if this > distinction could be made in MAINTAINERS and then the tools could use > that. For example, on treewide changes on Cc subsystem maintainers and > skip driver maintainers. The problem right now is Cc'ing everyone > quickly hits maillist moderation for too many recipients. Interesting idea. I wonder how much of this can be accomplished by improvements to get_maintainers and interpreting what we already have. There are inverse annoyances, too, where patches for subsystems get CCed all the way up the hierarchy and including linux-kernel@ for not apparent reason. We have to go sprinkle X: entries in MAINTAINERS currently to prevent it. In any case, I think that's a bit tangential. I sent a v3 already 'cause people kept reporting the same typoes :)