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[2620:137:e000::1:20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id ja9-20020a170907988900b0098e24139521si1225045ejc.743.2023.07.20.15.19.26; Thu, 20 Jul 2023 15:19:51 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::1:20 as permitted sender) client-ip=2620:137:e000::1:20; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@kernel.org header.s=k20201202 header.b=FjhNfRFq; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::1:20 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S229994AbjGTVhu (ORCPT + 99 others); Thu, 20 Jul 2023 17:37:50 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:57688 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S229570AbjGTVht (ORCPT ); Thu, 20 Jul 2023 17:37:49 -0400 Received: from dfw.source.kernel.org (dfw.source.kernel.org [139.178.84.217]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 76B0A270D; Thu, 20 Jul 2023 14:37:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.kernel.org (relay.kernel.org [52.25.139.140]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by dfw.source.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0E06961CAA; Thu, 20 Jul 2023 21:37:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F18DAC433C7; Thu, 20 Jul 2023 21:37:46 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1689889067; bh=GZUiHqFRIa9kRqFdnfZG76QIb9kkoyd03I0c7rzEtyg=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=FjhNfRFqD9OiPLhgTKdcW4hQ0kZIJhTHZ2NEg/quOHHTaoMtPNoe2XuiAdXjlbQJr 9UAEe1eip8ms1WhUOp6y9/cOoIIlfQm5lbMp90k0a14oSSvvPDe+YhLgLBZEvlk+Mz UdZVfCsS/iDSTIRHRtnYltLW12WLvk3h59LAd8t7RcJ76cF1XbKDQLPHEs8LbuqS1l ocekAft9WQjJ2F/Y3o15wfGmjfDcHuc2ypSLEz+A60jg1fCcN0hkDnE+2QNBuZ9Fy0 0ITe+vyojYkS11bfISx/Za/cuv4RwmNBY+lFESbUITd0OnKLYB0jurnSBxOGUT+Bs1 oHqjgiW89wo7Q== Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2023 14:37:46 -0700 From: Jakub Kicinski To: Conor Dooley Cc: corbet@lwn.net, Andrew Lunn , Greg Kroah-Hartman , Krzysztof Kozlowski , Mark Brown , Leon Romanovsky , workflows@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux@leemhuis.info, kvalo@kernel.org, benjamin.poirier@gmail.com Subject: Re: [PATCH docs v3] docs: maintainer: document expectations of small time maintainers Message-ID: <20230720143746.1adb159a@kernel.org> In-Reply-To: <20230720-proxy-smile-f1b882906ded@spud> References: <20230719183225.1827100-1-kuba@kernel.org> <20230720-proxy-smile-f1b882906ded@spud> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIMWL_WL_HIGH, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on lindbergh.monkeyblade.net Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, 20 Jul 2023 16:15:26 +0100 Conor Dooley wrote: > ..I noticed that none of these sections address actually testing the > code they're responsible for on a (semi-)regular basis. Sure, that comes > as part of reviewing the patches for their code, but changes to other > subsystems that a driver/feature maintainer probably would not have been > CCed on may cause problems for the code they maintain. > If we are adding a doc about best-practice for maintainers, I think we > should be encouraging people to test regularly. I think our testing story is too shaky to make that a requirement. Differently put - I was never able to get good upstream testing running when I worked for a vendor myself so I wouldn't know how to draw the lines.