Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1763932AbXJZU2v (ORCPT ); Fri, 26 Oct 2007 16:28:51 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752525AbXJZU2p (ORCPT ); Fri, 26 Oct 2007 16:28:45 -0400 Received: from waste.org ([66.93.16.53]:32796 "EHLO waste.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753474AbXJZU2o (ORCPT ); Fri, 26 Oct 2007 16:28:44 -0400 Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 15:28:31 -0500 From: Matt Mackall To: Benny Amorsen Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: IRQ off latency of printk is very high Message-ID: <20071026202831.GP17536@waste.org> References: <4720F21F.9090404@am.sony.com> <20071025222804.GA13954@Krystal> <47211E2C.90301@am.sony.com> <20071025231237.GT19691@waste.org> <472129C3.6040405@am.sony.com> <20071026012342.GV19691@waste.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1149 Lines: 27 On Fri, Oct 26, 2007 at 02:57:18PM +0200, Benny Amorsen wrote: > >>>>> "MM" == Matt Mackall writes: > > MM> Well there are things we can do, yes, but I'd be worried that > MM> they've give up the deterministic behavior we rely on quite > MM> heavily for debugging. If event A happens before event B, we must > MM> see the message from A before the one from B, even if B happens in > MM> irq context. > > MM> And if event B is a hard lock up, we'd also like to be sure the > MM> message for A actually gets out. If B happens in the interrupt > MM> that comes in when we re-enable them, that won't happen. > > I can see the concerns, but right now it all leads to disabling serial > console for real-time servers. That is even less helpful for > debugging. That's not clear. No data is often better than false or misleading data. -- Mathematics is the supreme nostalgia of our time. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/