Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1757286AbXJ1SNb (ORCPT ); Sun, 28 Oct 2007 14:13:31 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1756521AbXJ1SMK (ORCPT ); Sun, 28 Oct 2007 14:12:10 -0400 Received: from gprs189-60.eurotel.cz ([160.218.189.60]:4570 "EHLO spitz.ucw.cz" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1756159AbXJ1SMH (ORCPT ); Sun, 28 Oct 2007 14:12:07 -0400 Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 18:29:12 +0000 From: Pavel Machek To: Ray Lee Cc: Alan Cox , Chris Wright , Casey Schaufler , Adrian Bunk , Simon Arlott , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org, Jan Engelhardt , Linus Torvalds , Andreas Gruenbacher , Thomas Fricaccia , Jeremy Fitzhardinge , James Morris , Crispin Cowan , Giacomo Catenazzi Subject: Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion to static interface) Message-ID: <20071027182911.GD4159@ucw.cz> References: <20071024223124.GI30533@stusta.de> <446110.89443.qm@web36608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20071025002356.GB3660@sequoia.sous-sol.org> <2c0942db0710241735j78cfbec9rd8b5128d5da1fb96@mail.gmail.com> <20071025024131.6082e4a8@the-village.bc.nu> <2c0942db0710251117k37c30b2ex5cc6d8cd8c9ea029@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <2c0942db0710251117k37c30b2ex5cc6d8cd8c9ea029@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1008 Lines: 27 Hi! > > > The idea that poor security is worse than no security is fallacious, > > > and not backed up by common experience. > > > > There is a ton of evidence both in computing and outside of it which > > shows that poor security can be very much worse than no security at all. > > (So, I take it that you *don't* lock your bike up, as poor security is > worse than none?) I do lock my bike with combination lock I found somewhere and cracked in five minutes... sometimes. But do you suggest that I use paper tape to 'lock' my bike to streetlight? You just said that poor security is better than none, right? Pavel -- (english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek (cesky, pictures) http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blog.html - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/