Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756562AbXJ1SuR (ORCPT ); Sun, 28 Oct 2007 14:50:17 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752021AbXJ1SuF (ORCPT ); Sun, 28 Oct 2007 14:50:05 -0400 Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com ([209.85.198.191]:15247 "EHLO rv-out-0910.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752006AbXJ1SuC (ORCPT ); Sun, 28 Oct 2007 14:50:02 -0400 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:from:to:cc:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index:content-language; b=LC67gYq45uncH7N7UbmTE1SwMR+gvNzpUw4I9dXguUUvKc03XUemlAKAQZXLnuaxb1+LQP/WMSlB/kATVAH7q+hWm+Fw9RNvNuztdP34gHDRaKaMUji/Ay8iOnM9CvygSje/tBetxBfR+Ii7GwzL/hjbVhWViTMGeguYiA8dS1M= From: "Hua Zhong" To: "'Pavel Machek'" , "'Ray Lee'" Cc: "'Alan Cox'" , "'Chris Wright'" , "'Casey Schaufler'" , "'Adrian Bunk'" , "'Simon Arlott'" , , , "'Jan Engelhardt'" , "'Linus Torvalds'" , "'Andreas Gruenbacher'" , "'Thomas Fricaccia'" , "'Jeremy Fitzhardinge'" , "'James Morris'" , "'Crispin Cowan'" , "'Giacomo Catenazzi'" References: <20071024223124.GI30533@stusta.de> <446110.89443.qm@web36608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20071025002356.GB3660@sequoia.sous-sol.org> <2c0942db0710241735j78cfbec9rd8b5128d5da1fb96@mail.gmail.com> <20071025024131.6082e4a8@the-village.bc.nu> <2c0942db0710251117k37c30b2ex5cc6d8cd8c9ea029@mail.gmail.com> <20071027182911.GD4159@ucw.cz> In-Reply-To: <20071027182911.GD4159@ucw.cz> Subject: RE: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion to static interface) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 11:48:47 -0700 Message-ID: <008101c81993$301f1750$905d45f0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcgZjlwFpFPt2li5SpKpcqUD1itVswABM5Kg Content-Language: en-us Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1906 Lines: 53 > -----Original Message----- > From: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org [mailto:linux-kernel- > owner@vger.kernel.org] On Behalf Of Pavel Machek > Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 11:29 AM > To: Ray Lee > Cc: Alan Cox; Chris Wright; Casey Schaufler; Adrian Bunk; Simon Arlott; > linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org; linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org; > Jan Engelhardt; Linus Torvalds; Andreas Gruenbacher; Thomas Fricaccia; > Jeremy Fitzhardinge; James Morris; Crispin Cowan; Giacomo Catenazzi > Subject: Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion to > static interface) > > Hi! > > > > > The idea that poor security is worse than no security is > fallacious, > > > > and not backed up by common experience. > > > > > > There is a ton of evidence both in computing and outside of it > which > > > shows that poor security can be very much worse than no security at > all. > > > > (So, I take it that you *don't* lock your bike up, as poor security > is > > worse than none?) > > I do lock my bike with combination lock I found somewhere and cracked > in five minutes... sometimes. > > But do you suggest that I use paper tape to 'lock' my bike to > streetlight? You just said that poor security is better than none, > right? > > Pavel > -- > (english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek > (cesky, pictures) > http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blog.html > - > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" > in > the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html > Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/