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From:   Guo Ren <guoren@kernel.org>
Date:   Fri, 4 Aug 2023 09:33:48 +0800
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v15 3/6] locking/qspinlock: Introduce CNA into the slow
 path of qspinlock
To:     Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
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On Thu, Aug 3, 2023 at 7:57=E2=80=AFPM Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org=
> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Aug 03, 2023 at 06:28:51PM +0800, Guo Ren wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 3, 2023 at 4:50=E2=80=AFPM Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead=
.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Wed, Aug 02, 2023 at 07:14:05PM -0400, Guo Ren wrote:
> > >
> > > > The pv_ops is belongs to x86 custom frame work, and it prevent othe=
r
> > > > architectures connect to the CNA spinlock.
> > >
> > > static_call() exists as a arch neutral variant of this.
> > Emm... we have used static_call() in the riscv queued_spin_lock_:
> > https://lore.kernel.org/all/20230802164701.192791-20-guoren@kernel.org/
>
> Yeah, I think I saw that land in the INBOX, just haven't had time to
> look at it.
>
> > But we met a compile problem:
> >
> >   GEN     .vmlinux.objs
> >   MODPOST Module.symvers
> > ERROR: modpost: "__SCK__pv_queued_spin_unlock" [arch/riscv/kvm/kvm.ko]
> > undefined!
> > ERROR: modpost: "__SCK__pv_queued_spin_unlock"
> > [kernel/locking/locktorture.ko] undefined!
> > ERROR: modpost: "__SCK__pv_queued_spin_unlock" [mm/z3fold.ko] undefined=
!
> > ERROR: modpost: "__SCK__pv_queued_spin_unlock"
> > [fs/nfs_common/grace.ko] undefined!
> > ERROR: modpost: "__SCK__pv_queued_spin_unlock" [fs/quota/quota_v1.ko] u=
ndefined!
> > ERROR: modpost: "__SCK__pv_queued_spin_unlock" [fs/quota/quota_v2.ko] u=
ndefined!
> > ERROR: modpost: "__SCK__pv_queued_spin_unlock"
> > [fs/quota/quota_tree.ko] undefined!
> > ERROR: modpost: "__SCK__pv_queued_spin_unlock" [fs/fuse/virtiofs.ko] un=
defined!
> > ERROR: modpost: "__SCK__pv_queued_spin_unlock" [fs/dlm/dlm.ko] undefine=
d!
> > ERROR: modpost: "__SCK__pv_queued_spin_unlock" [fs/fscache/fscache.ko]
> > undefined!
> > WARNING: modpost: suppressed 839 unresolved symbol warnings because
> > there were too many)
> > /home/guoren/source/kernel/linux/scripts/Makefile.modpost:144: recipe
> > for target 'Module.symvers' failed
> >
> > Our solution is:
> > EXPORT_SYMBOL(__SCK__pv_queued_spin_unlock);
> >
> > What do you think about it?
>
> Could be you're not using static_call_mod() to go with
> EXPORT_STATIC_CALL_TRAMP()
Thx, that's what I want.

>
> > > > I'm working on riscv qspinlock on sg2042 64 cores 2/4 NUMA nodes
> > > > platforms. Here are the patches about riscv CNA qspinlock:
> > > > https://lore.kernel.org/linux-riscv/20230802164701.192791-19-guoren=
@kernel.org/
> > > >
> > > > What's the next plan for this patch series? I think the two-queue d=
esign
> > > > has satisfied most platforms with two NUMA nodes.
> > >
> > > What has been your reason for working on CNA? What lock has been so
> > > contended you need this?
> > I wrote the reason here:
> > https://lore.kernel.org/all/20230802164701.192791-1-guoren@kernel.org/
> >
> > The target platform is: https://www.sophon.ai/
> >
> > The two NUMA nodes platform has come out, so we want to measure the
> > benefit of CNA qspinlock.
>
> CNA should only show a benefit when there is strong inter-node
> contention, and in that case it is typically best to fix the kernel side
> locking.
>
> Hence the question as to what lock prompted you to look at this.
I met the long lock queue situation when the hardware gave an overly
aggressive store queue merge buffer delay mechanism. See:
https://lore.kernel.org/linux-riscv/20230802164701.192791-8-guoren@kernel.o=
rg/

This also let me consider improving the efficiency of the long lock
queue release. For example, if the queue is like this:

(Node0 cpu0) -> (Node1 cpu64) -> (Node0 cpu1) -> (Node1 cpu65) ->
(Node0 cpu2) -> (Node1 cpu66) -> ...

Then every mcs_unlock would cause a cross-NUMA transaction. But if we
could make the queue like this:

(Node0 cpu0) -> (Node0 cpu1) -> (Node0 cpu2) -> (Node1 cpu65) ->
(Node1 cpu66) -> (Node1 cpu64) -> ...

Only one cross-NUMA transaction is needed. Although it would cause
starvation problems, qspinlock.numa_spinlock_threshold_ns could give a
basic guarantee.

--=20
Best Regards
 Guo Ren