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Date:   Tue, 08 Aug 2023 12:06:45 +0100
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From:   Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
To:     Suzuki K Poulose <suzuki.poulose@arm.com>
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/3] coresight: Support exclude_guest with Feat_TRF and nVHE
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On Sat, 05 Aug 2023 11:28:39 +0100,
Suzuki K Poulose <suzuki.poulose@arm.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Marc
> 
> On 04/08/2023 20:09, Marc Zyngier wrote:
> > On Fri, 04 Aug 2023 11:13:10 +0100,
> > James Clark <james.clark@arm.com> wrote:
> >> 
> >> Hi,
> >> 
> >> I'm looking for help in testing this and for feedback on whether it's
> >> useful to anyone. Testing it requires hardware that has Feat_TRF (v8.4)
> >> but no TRBE. This is because TRBE usage is disabled in nVHE guests.
> >> 
> >> I don't currently have any access to any hardware, and the FVP model
> >> can only do self hosted trace using TRBE.
> >> 
> >> Currently with nVHE you would always get trace from guests, and
> >> filtering out isn't possible without this patchset. In comparison, with
> >> VHE guests, they never generate guest trace without [1]. I think the
> >> existence of trace rather than lack of could suggest that this change is
> >> less useful than [1]. Also the restricted set of hardware that it works
> >> on supports that too.
> > 
> > It'd be nice to have some sort of feature parity, but it seems like a
> > vanishingly small target of users having access to an ETM sink.
> > 
> >> 
> >> Apart from compilation and checking that the exclude guest settings
> >> are correctly programmed on guest switch, this is untested by me.
> > 
> > I'll have a look at the series, but none of my HW fits in this
> > description (my ARMv8.4+ boxes don't have any form of tracing).
> 
> While I have your attention, we have another series that manages the
> trace filtering for Guests on VHE, completely within the Coresight etm4x
> driver here [0]. I personally think, it is good to have the guest
> filtering for both nVHE and VHE under the KVM control, like we do
> in this series. I would like your opinion on this.

I just quickly reviewed the first two patches of the nVHE series, and
I think the shape is a bit wrong. I can absolutely see the interest of
preventing extra tracing when a guest is running, but the way this is
currently plugged makes it hard to reason about it.

> [0] https://lkml.kernel.org/r/20230804085219.260790-1-james.clark@arm.com

I'll try to have a look at that one later.

Thanks,

	M.

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