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This includes all compatibility constraints? Because IIRC we've also had trouble because a CPUID bit got set. Kernel didn't know about, didn't manage it, but userspace saw the bit and happily tried to use it. Ofc I can't remember the exact case :/ but anything that changes the xsave size/state would obviously cause trouble.