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From:   Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
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On Sun, Aug 13, 2023 at 04:23:27PM +0100, Andrew.Cooper3@citrix.com wrote:
> On 10/08/2023 2:02 pm, Peter Zijlstra wrote:

> > So BTC as a whole is the fact that AMD predicts the type of an
> > instruction and then picks a predictor to predict the target of that
> > instruction, no?
> 
> No.
> 
> "Branch Type Confusion" is the technical name AMD gave last year's
> issue.? Hence the name of the whitepaper about it,
> https://www.amd.com/system/files/documents/technical-guidance-for-mitigating-branch-type-confusion.pdf

Bah, then what do we call the actual underlying issue that the AMD
branch predictor starts by predicting the next instruction type --
before it has been decoded -- meaning it can predict it wrong, which
then leads to a tons of other issues, including but not limited to:

 SLS through JMP (or pretty much anything else)
 RET from BTB

?

Calling *THAT* branch-type-confusion makes a heap more sense to me.