Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1757353AbXKFMgj (ORCPT ); Tue, 6 Nov 2007 07:36:39 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1755028AbXKFMgb (ORCPT ); Tue, 6 Nov 2007 07:36:31 -0500 Received: from mx10.go2.pl ([193.17.41.74]:53184 "EHLO poczta.o2.pl" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1755014AbXKFMga (ORCPT ); Tue, 6 Nov 2007 07:36:30 -0500 Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 13:40:18 +0100 From: Jarek Poplawski To: Theodore Tso Cc: Remigiusz Modrzejewski , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Policy on dual licensing? Message-ID: <20071106124018.GA1666@ff.dom.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20071104000443.GB30710@thunk.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2115 Lines: 48 On 04-11-2007 01:04, Theodore Tso wrote: > On Sat, Nov 03, 2007 at 12:14:15PM +0000, Remigiusz Modrzejewski wrote: >> We've all seen the last flame war about Linux stealing BSD code. Due to >> Theo's bad wording whole discussion rolled around the question about >> legality of this, a big waste of time (question answered a thousand >> times). Still, the question about ethics is quite valid... > > Please let's not restart the flame war then. Why not? Is it better to stay enemies forever? Sometimes, after the war miracles happen and bitter enemies become friends... ... > [...] There are those who believe that there is nothing wrong, > either morally, ethically, or legally, with taking BSD code, and not > dual-licesing it when adding GPL-specific additions. [...] IMHO, the main problem is talking about these things instead of some basics: 1. BSD copyright is simple here: "1. Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer." So, when I read on lkml, there are people, thinking they actually can add here and there something about GPL, or even remove it at all, we have a problem... Any legal, moral or ethical reasoning here is useless (but gathering some weapons should be safe bet). 2. After retaining such a copyright, IMHO the war is over and BSD guys call as the best friends! If we are very clever and stay with this only, they probably can even become our slaves (if they are so "incredibly silly" as presumed). 3. Otherwise, we have a problem: anything added or changed looks like BSD copyrighted too. And this is really a legal, moral and ethical problem, but it's our internal problem (I doubt BSD people are silly enough to fight for these additions). If you haven't guessed, I'm in the earlier camp... Regards, Jarek P. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/