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From:   Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
Date:   Tue, 12 Sep 2023 10:34:44 +0200
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] maple_tree: Disable mas_wr_append() when other
 readers are possible
To:     paulmck@kernel.org
Cc:     "Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
        Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
        maple-tree@lists.infradead.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
        linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, stable@vger.kernel.org,
        linux-renesas-soc@vger.kernel.org,
        Shanker Donthineni <sdonthineni@nvidia.com>
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Hi Paul,

On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 10:30 AM Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@kernel.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 10:23:37AM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 10:14 AM Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@kernel.org> wrote:
> > > On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 07:54:52PM -0400, Liam R. Howlett wrote:
> > > > * Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@kernel.org> [230906 14:03]:
> > > > > On Wed, Sep 06, 2023 at 01:29:54PM -0400, Liam R. Howlett wrote:
> > > > > > * Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@kernel.org> [230906 13:24]:
> > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 06, 2023 at 11:23:25AM -0400, Liam R. Howlett wrote:
> > > > > > > > (Adding Paul & Shanker to Cc list.. please see below for why)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Apologies on the late response, I was away and have been struggling to
> > > > > > > > get a working PPC32 test environment.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > * Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org> [230829 12:42]:
> > > > > > > > >     Hi Liam,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Fri, 18 Aug 2023, Liam R. Howlett wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > The current implementation of append may cause duplicate data and/or
> > > > > > > > > > incorrect ranges to be returned to a reader during an update.  Although
> > > > > > > > > > this has not been reported or seen, disable the append write operation
> > > > > > > > > > while the tree is in rcu mode out of an abundance of caution.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > ...
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > RCU-related configs:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >     $ grep RCU .config
> > > > > > > > >     # RCU Subsystem
> > > > > > > > >     CONFIG_TINY_RCU=y
> > >
> > > I must have been asleep last time I looked at this.  I was looking at
> > > Tree RCU.  Please accept my apologies for my lapse.  :-/
> > >
> > > However, Tiny RCU's call_rcu() also avoids enabling IRQs, so I would
> > > have said the same thing, albeit after looking at a lot less RCU code.
> > >
> > > TL;DR:
> > >
> > > 1.      Try making the __setup_irq() function's call to mutex_lock()
> > >         instead be as follows:
> > >
> > >         if (!mutex_trylock(&desc->request_mutex))
> > >                 mutex_lock(&desc->request_mutex);
> > >
> > >         This might fail if __setup_irq() has other dependencies on a
> > >         fully operational scheduler.
> > >
> > > 2.      Move that ppc32 call to __setup_irq() much later, most definitely
> > >         after interrupts have been enabled and the scheduler is fully
> > >         operational.  Invoking mutex_lock() before that time is not a
> > >         good idea.  ;-)
> >
> > There is no call to __setup_irq() from arch/powerpc/?
>
> Glad it is not just me, given that I didn't see a direct call, either.  So
> later in this email, I asked Liam to put a WARN_ON_ONCE(irqs_disabled())
> just before that mutex_lock() in __setup_irq().
>
> Either way, invoking mutex_lock() early in boot before interrupts have
> been enabled is a bad idea.  ;-)

I'll add that WARN_ON_ONCE() too, and will report back later today...

> > Note that there are (possibly different) issues seen on ppc32 and on arm32
> > (Renesas RZ/A in particular, but not on other Renesas ARM systems).
> >
> > I saw an issue on arm32 with cfeb6ae8bcb96ccf, but not with cfeb6ae8bcb96ccf^.
> > Other people saw an issue on ppc32 with both cfeb6ae8bcb96ccf and
> > cfeb6ae8bcb96ccf^.
>
> I look forward to hearing what is the issue in both cases.

For RZ/A, my problem report is
https://lore.kernel.org/all/3f86d58e-7f36-c6b4-c43a-2a7bcffd3bd@linux-m68k.org/

Thanks!

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

                        Geert

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