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Peter Anvin" , Thomas Gleixner , Xin Li , linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-edac@vger.kernel.org, linux-hyperv@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org, xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org Cc: mingo@redhat.com, bp@alien8.de, dave.hansen@linux.intel.com, x86@kernel.org, luto@kernel.org, pbonzini@redhat.com, seanjc@google.com, peterz@infradead.org, jgross@suse.com, ravi.v.shankar@intel.com, mhiramat@kernel.org, jiangshanlai@gmail.com References: <20230914044805.301390-1-xin3.li@intel.com> <20230914044805.301390-4-xin3.li@intel.com> <6f5678ff-f8b1-9ada-c8c7-f32cfb77263a@citrix.com> <87y1h81ht4.ffs@tglx> <7ba4ae3e-f75d-66a8-7669-b6eb17c1aa1c@citrix.com> <87v8cc1ehe.ffs@tglx> <50e96f85-66f8-2a4f-45c9-a685c757bb28@citrix.com> <5cf50d76-8e18-2863-4889-70e9c18298a1@zytor.com> In-Reply-To: <5cf50d76-8e18-2863-4889-70e9c18298a1@zytor.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.4 (fry.vger.email [0.0.0.0]); Thu, 14 Sep 2023 18:46:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=DKIMWL_WL_HIGH,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,NICE_REPLY_A,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on fry.vger.email On 15/09/2023 1:38 am, H. Peter Anvin wrote: > On 9/14/23 17:33, andrew.cooper3@citrix.com wrote: >> >> It's an assumption about what "definitely won't" be paravirt in the >> future. >> >> XenPV stack handling is almost-FRED-like and has been for the better >> part of two decades. >> >> You frequently complain that there's too much black magic holding XenPV >> together.  A paravirt-FRED will reduce the differences vs native >> substantially. >> > > Call it "paravirtualized exception handling." In that sense, the > refactoring of the exception handling to benefit FRED is definitely > useful for reducing paravirtualization. The FRED-specific code is > largely trivial, and presumably what you would do is to replace the > FRED wrapper with a Xen wrapper and call the common handler routines. Why do only half the job? There's no need for any Xen wrappers at all when XenPV can use the native FRED paths, as long as ERETU, ERETS and the relevant MSRs can be paravirt (sure - with an interface that sucks less than right now) so they're not taking the #GP/emulate in Xen path. And this can work on all hardware with a slightly-future version of Xen and Linux, because it's just a minor adjustment to how Xen writes the exception frame on the guests stack as part of event delivery. ~Andrew