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From:   Ian Rogers <irogers@google.com>
Date:   Mon, 18 Sep 2023 15:42:57 -0700
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v1] perf evlist: Avoid frequency mode for the dummy event
To:     Mingwei Zhang <mizhang@google.com>
Cc:     Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
        Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
        Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
        Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
        Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>,
        Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org>,
        Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
        Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@intel.com>,
        Kan Liang <kan.liang@linux.intel.com>,
        linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
        Yang Jihong <yangjihong1@huawei.com>,
        Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com>
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On Sat, Sep 16, 2023 at 5:46=E2=80=AFPM Mingwei Zhang <mizhang@google.com> =
wrote:
>
> On Fri, Sep 15, 2023 at 9:10=E2=80=AFPM Ian Rogers <irogers@google.com> w=
rote:
> >
> > Dummy events are created with an attribute where the period and freq
> > are zero. evsel__config will then see the uninitialized values and
> > initialize them in evsel__default_freq_period. As fequency mode is
> > used by default the dummy event would be set to use frequency
> > mode. However, this has no effect on the dummy event but does cause
> > unnecessary timers/interrupts. Avoid this overhead by setting the
> > period to 1 for dummy events.
> >
> > evlist__add_aux_dummy calls evlist__add_dummy then sets freq=3D0 and
> > period=3D1. This isn't necessary after this change and so the setting i=
s
> > removed.
> >
> > From Stephane:
> >
> > The dummy event is not counting anything. It is used to collect mmap
> > records and avoid a race condition during the synthesize mmap phase of
> > perf record. As such, it should not cause any overhead during active
> > profiling. Yet, it did. Because of a bug the dummy event was
> > programmed as a sampling event in frequency mode. Events in that mode
> > incur more kernel overheads because on timer tick, the kernel has to
> > look at the number of samples for each event and potentially adjust
> > the sampling period to achieve the desired frequency. The dummy event
> > was therefore adding a frequency event to task and ctx contexts we may
> > otherwise not have any, e.g., perf record -a -e
> > cpu/event=3D0x3c,period=3D10000000/. On each timer tick the
> > perf_adjust_freq_unthr_context() is invoked and if ctx->nr_freq is
> > non-zero, then the kernel will loop over ALL the events of the context
> > looking for frequency mode ones. In doing, so it locks the context,
> > and enable/disable the PMU of each hw event. If all the events of the
> > context are in period mode, the kernel will have to traverse the list f=
or
> > nothing incurring overhead. The overhead is multiplied by a very large
> > factor when this happens in a guest kernel. There is no need for the
> > dummy event to be in frequency mode, it does not count anything and
> > therefore should not cause extra overhead for no reason.
> >
> > Fixes: 5bae0250237f ("perf evlist: Introduce perf_evlist__new_dummy con=
structor")
> > Reported-by: Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com>
> > Signed-off-by: Ian Rogers <irogers@google.com>
> > ---
> >  tools/perf/util/evlist.c | 5 +++--
> >  1 file changed, 3 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/tools/perf/util/evlist.c b/tools/perf/util/evlist.c
> > index 25c3ebe2c2f5..e36da58522ef 100644
> > --- a/tools/perf/util/evlist.c
> > +++ b/tools/perf/util/evlist.c
> > @@ -251,6 +251,9 @@ static struct evsel *evlist__dummy_event(struct evl=
ist *evlist)
> >                 .type   =3D PERF_TYPE_SOFTWARE,
> >                 .config =3D PERF_COUNT_SW_DUMMY,
> >                 .size   =3D sizeof(attr), /* to capture ABI version */
> > +               /* Avoid frequency mode for dummy events to avoid assoc=
iated timers. */
> > +               .freq =3D 0,
> > +               .sample_period =3D 1,
> >         };
> >
> >         return evsel__new_idx(&attr, evlist->core.nr_entries);
> > @@ -277,8 +280,6 @@ struct evsel *evlist__add_aux_dummy(struct evlist *=
evlist, bool system_wide)
> >         evsel->core.attr.exclude_kernel =3D 1;
> >         evsel->core.attr.exclude_guest =3D 1;
> >         evsel->core.attr.exclude_hv =3D 1;
> > -       evsel->core.attr.freq =3D 0;
> > -       evsel->core.attr.sample_period =3D 1;
> >         evsel->core.system_wide =3D system_wide;
> >         evsel->no_aux_samples =3D true;
> >         evsel->name =3D strdup("dummy:u");
> > --
> > 2.42.0.459.ge4e396fd5e-goog
> >
>
> Thank you very much for the change. I have one quick question about
> the PMU unthrottling logic. When I am looking into the function
> perf_adjust_freq_unthr_context(), I see the loop with PMU stop and
> start in each iteration. Is there a good way to avoid this PMU reset
> operation while quickly figuring out the event in frequency mode?

Agreed. I think before the pmu_disable could be avoided for this condition:
```
if (event->hw.interrupts !=3D MAX_INTERRUPTS &&
    (!event->attr.freq || !event->attr.sample_freq))
        continue;
```
Fixing up the event stop/start looks harder.

Thanks,
Ian

> Thanks.
> -Mingwei