Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1762433AbXKHT1e (ORCPT ); Thu, 8 Nov 2007 14:27:34 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1759958AbXKHT11 (ORCPT ); Thu, 8 Nov 2007 14:27:27 -0500 Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com ([209.85.128.189]:19466 "EHLO fk-out-0910.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753318AbXKHT10 (ORCPT ); Thu, 8 Nov 2007 14:27:26 -0500 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:cc:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; b=uVBTwkjhdivzEbjmM6hILt+y/sIc19hLO3bpv8o6F6BWfMMcHzPXk5giuCcR+VcdHG/TDaRlz1H4MUGaGTIya22dmZCK7UOUoYsX0pfF+M3zIzQWBJI+pUs4rbbBhwHPkcGYf7QTTxHuxtaIgK1BDWgtLbvhpST9mtuJiKKwIws= From: Denys Vlasenko To: Andrew Morton Subject: Re: compat_sys_times() bogus until jiffies >= 0. Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 19:27:19 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 Cc: Paul Mackerras , lkml@davidb.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, drepper@redhat.com, mtk-manpages@gmx.net References: <20071107224722.GA20204@old.davidb.org> <18226.27701.782268.375231@cargo.ozlabs.ibm.com> <20071107190714.9c404e28.akpm@linux-foundation.org> In-Reply-To: <20071107190714.9c404e28.akpm@linux-foundation.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200711081927.19394.vda.linux@googlemail.com> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1868 Lines: 39 On Thursday 08 November 2007 03:07, Andrew Morton wrote: > > On Thu, 8 Nov 2007 12:53:57 +1100 Paul Mackerras wrote: > > Andrew Morton writes: > > > > > Given all this stuff, the return value from sys_times() doesn't seem a > > > particularly useful or reliable kernel interface. > > > > I think the best thing would be to ignore any error from copy_to_user > > and always return the number of clock ticks. We should call > > force_successful_syscall_return, and glibc on x86 should be taught not > > to interpret negative values as an error. > > Changing glibc might be hard ;) > > > POSIX doesn't require us to return an EFAULT error if the buf argument > > is bogus. If userspace does supply a bogus buf pointer, then either > > it will dereference it itself and get a segfault, or it won't > > dereference it, in which case it obviously didn't care about the > > values we tried to put there. > > > > If we try to return an error under some circumstances, then there is > > at least one 32-bit value for the number of ticks that will cause > > confusion. We can either change that value (or values) to some other > > value, which seems pretty bogus, or we can just decide not to return > > any errors. The latter seems to me to have no significant downside > > and to be the simplest solution to the problem. > > "the latter" is what my protopatch does isn't it? It wraps at 0x7fffffff. > It appears that glibc treats all of 0x80000000-0xffffffff as an error. The best solution is to change the kernel to never return an error and to change glibc to never treat return as an error. -- vda - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/