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Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v2 0/5] TSN auto negotiation between 1G and 2.5G
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On Thu, Sep 21, 2023 at 08:25:05PM +0800, Choong Yong Liang wrote:
> 
> 
> On 4/8/2023 8:04 pm, Andrew Lunn wrote:
> > On Fri, Aug 04, 2023 at 04:45:22PM +0800, Choong Yong Liang wrote:
> > > Intel platforms’ integrated Gigabit Ethernet controllers support
> > > 2.5Gbps mode statically using BIOS programming. In the current
> > > implementation, the BIOS menu provides an option to select between
> > > 10/100/1000Mbps and 2.5Gbps modes. Based on the selection, the BIOS
> > > programs the Phase Lock Loop (PLL) registers. The BIOS also read the
> > > TSN lane registers from Flexible I/O Adapter (FIA) block and provided
> > > 10/100/1000Mbps/2.5Gbps information to the stmmac driver. But
> > > auto-negotiation between 10/100/1000Mbps and 2.5Gbps is not allowed.
> > > The new proposal is to support auto-negotiation between 10/100/1000Mbps
> > > and 2.5Gbps . Auto-negotiation between 10, 100, 1000Mbps will use
> > > in-band auto negotiation. Auto-negotiation between 10/100/1000Mbps and
> > > 2.5Gbps will work as the following proposed flow, the stmmac driver reads
> > > the PHY link status registers then identifies the negotiated speed.
> > > Based on the speed stmmac driver will identify TSN lane registers from
> > > FIA then send IPC command to the Power Management controller (PMC)
> > > through PMC driver/API. PMC will act as a proxy to programs the
> > > PLL registers.
> > 
> > Have you considered using out of band for all link modes? You might
> > end up with a cleaner architecture, and not need any phylink/phylib
> > hacks.
> > 
> > 	Andrew
> Hi Andrew,
> 
> After conducting a comprehensive study, it seems that implementing
> out-of-band for all link modes might not be feasible. I may have missed some
> key aspects during my analysis.

You need to provide details of why you think it's not feasible, because
you're making those reading your message have to guess.

We _do_ have cases where this is already supported. The DM7052 SFP
module for example has a BCM84881 PHY on board that has no in-band
support, so always has to use out-of-band. This module supports 10G,
5G, 2.5G, 1G, 100M and 10M speeds. It switches its interface between
10G, 2500base-X and SGMII mode. It's been supported in Linux for a
while with MAC/PCS that implement phylink _correctly_.

I wouldn't call stmmac a proper phylink implementation, especially
when it comes to switching between different interfaces.

My attempt at starting to clean up the stmmac code was thwarted by
niggly review comments (over whether %u or %d should be used to print
a _signed integer_ that stmmac stupidly implicitly casts to an unsigned
integer. That lead me to decide that stmmac was beyond being cleaned
up, so I junked the large patch set of improvements that I had - along
with multiple issues that I had found in the driver.

Someone else needs to sort stmmac out, and I suspect that may be a
pre-requisit for your changes so that stmmac operates _correctly_ with
phylink.

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