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[2620:137:e000::3:4]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id r17-20020a170902c7d100b001bbca0a8393si2801734pla.56.2023.09.21.21.56.30 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 21 Sep 2023 21:56:31 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::3:4 as permitted sender) client-ip=2620:137:e000::3:4; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@intel.com header.s=Intel header.b=lDuPwhRY; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::3:4 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=intel.com Received: from out1.vger.email (depot.vger.email [IPv6:2620:137:e000::3:0]) by howler.vger.email (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8A3F807070A; Thu, 21 Sep 2023 17:37:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.103.10 at howler.vger.email Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S229734AbjIVAhw (ORCPT + 99 others); Thu, 21 Sep 2023 20:37:52 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:56140 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S229633AbjIVAhv (ORCPT ); Thu, 21 Sep 2023 20:37:51 -0400 Received: from mgamail.intel.com (mgamail.intel.com [192.55.52.120]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A12421A6 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2023 17:37:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=intel.com; i=@intel.com; q=dns/txt; s=Intel; t=1695343065; x=1726879065; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to: message-id:mime-version; bh=DmdI4oHKe04/WJ/lKQd7QEfaM28FFFU6/vTomck8QyA=; b=lDuPwhRY8qEHcceP3xJ4Icgx/fRLug1+LGX/mEnz62MhWl+MSlcLIWcx qmOViS0WqTfgUGT3dsVapi9m4zFKaAmNFguKem/iVxDx6hU4lRjfque7w MISS6UkkTuNQJohcw3wy/n8W49JrEWqP2Xgeh84dOGoohtGQWSPQU3WgV cgP4KTRGxKeoWywC0xoRkroiKwLFNP4chQyn4zZMP+MBlxn9HfIOc2GTp wwQ/u9C6yrnYJAJ298POUTjwf7BYT0unkb14cQq8DPxLD4U0rTkJdeXXe LZva/MGxAGEA6zdmzqH+IL1HX1nBJTKkc3MDNo/bvViXG091fKWXGroMa A==; X-IronPort-AV: E=McAfee;i="6600,9927,10840"; a="379585327" X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="6.03,166,1694761200"; d="scan'208";a="379585327" Received: from orsmga007.jf.intel.com ([10.7.209.58]) by fmsmga104.fm.intel.com with ESMTP/TLS/ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 21 Sep 2023 17:37:44 -0700 X-ExtLoop1: 1 X-IronPort-AV: E=McAfee;i="6600,9927,10840"; a="740905492" X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="6.03,166,1694761200"; d="scan'208";a="740905492" Received: from yhuang6-desk2.sh.intel.com (HELO yhuang6-desk2.ccr.corp.intel.com) ([10.238.208.55]) by orsmga007-auth.jf.intel.com with ESMTP/TLS/ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 21 Sep 2023 17:37:41 -0700 From: "Huang, Ying" To: Andrew Morton Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Arjan Van De Ven , Mel Gorman , Vlastimil Babka , David Hildenbrand , Johannes Weiner , Dave Hansen , Michal Hocko , Pavel Tatashin , Matthew Wilcox , Christoph Lameter Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/10] mm: PCP high auto-tuning References: <20230920061856.257597-1-ying.huang@intel.com> <20230920094118.8b8f739125c6aede17c627e0@linux-foundation.org> <87leczwt1o.fsf@yhuang6-desk2.ccr.corp.intel.com> <20230921084617.b1129a46de247e4a6f0098af@linux-foundation.org> Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2023 08:33:52 +0800 In-Reply-To: <20230921084617.b1129a46de247e4a6f0098af@linux-foundation.org> (Andrew Morton's message of "Thu, 21 Sep 2023 08:46:17 -0700") Message-ID: <87h6nnvyfj.fsf@yhuang6-desk2.ccr.corp.intel.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ascii X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIMWL_WL_HIGH, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_NONE,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on lindbergh.monkeyblade.net Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.4 (howler.vger.email [0.0.0.0]); Thu, 21 Sep 2023 17:37:49 -0700 (PDT) Andrew Morton writes: > On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 21:32:35 +0800 "Huang, Ying" wrote: > >> > : It's possible that PCP high auto-tuning doesn't work well for some >> > : workloads. So, when PCP high is tuned by hand via the sysctl knob, >> > : the auto-tuning will be disabled. The PCP high set by hand will be >> > : used instead. >> > >> > Is it a bit hacky to disable autotuning when the user alters >> > pcp-high? Would it be cleaner to have a separate on/off knob for >> > autotuning? >> >> This was suggested by Mel Gormon, >> >> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20230714140710.5xbesq6xguhcbyvi@techsingularity.net/ >> >> " >> I'm not opposed to having an adaptive pcp->high in concept. I think it would >> be best to disable adaptive tuning if percpu_pagelist_high_fraction is set >> though. I expect that users of that tunable are rare and that if it *is* >> used that there is a very good reason for it. >> " >> >> Do you think that this is reasonable? > > I suppose so, if it's documented! > > Documentation/admin-guide/sysctl/vm.rst describes > percpu_pagelist_high_fraction. Sure. Will add document about auto-tuning behavior in the above document. -- Best Regards, Huang, Ying