Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752098AbXKJFAi (ORCPT ); Sat, 10 Nov 2007 00:00:38 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1750774AbXKJFA3 (ORCPT ); Sat, 10 Nov 2007 00:00:29 -0500 Received: from srv5.dvmed.net ([207.36.208.214]:51656 "EHLO mail.dvmed.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750767AbXKJFA2 (ORCPT ); Sat, 10 Nov 2007 00:00:28 -0500 Message-ID: <47353AE8.5050900@garzik.org> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 00:00:24 -0500 From: Jeff Garzik User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (X11/20070727) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: peer chen , Kuan Luo , Robert Hancock CC: linux-kernel , linux-ide , akpm Subject: Re: [PATCH] sata_nv,ahci: add the ahci legacy mode support to sata_nv References: <200709251323031982245@gmail.com> <470FE47B.5060505@garzik.org> <47181CE1.4000802@garzik.org> <47185BFD.2010909@garzik.org> <47352DD8.6040607@garzik.org> In-Reply-To: <47352DD8.6040607@garzik.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -4.4 (----) X-Spam-Report: SpamAssassin version 3.1.9 on srv5.dvmed.net summary: Content analysis details: (-4.4 points, 5.0 required) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1700 Lines: 41 Jeff Garzik wrote: > The proposed sata_nv patch does the opposite -- guarantees we must > support the continually problematic legacy IDE interface ad infinitum. > Such patches are OK for the test lab, but in this specific case users > /suffer/ when not running AHCI mode. Just to reinforce... sata_nv support and bug fixes are primarily done right now through the valiant efforts of Robert Hancock (with assists from Alan, Tejun, and others). Robert's job is difficult, because he has no hardware documentation[1], and NVIDIA does not seem to be helping out much with driver bug reports on the lists or in bugzillas. As far as I know, I am the only one in the universe outside of NVIDIA with any SATA docs at all, and those docs _only_ cover ADMA registers and DMA structures, no PCI config info, no errata, nothing on SWNCQ or legacy IDE (well, half a page). NVIDIA has indeed become more engaged in sata_nv in recent times, and that's a positive sign. You, Kuon and Ayaz have all been noticeably more responsive in email. Thanks. Users have definitely benefited, particularly from your help addressing a couple SWNCQ issues. But at this point in time, being asked to choose between sata_nv and ahci is no choice at all. One has public documentation, wide industry support and little-or-no bugs. The other has several open issues, no documentation, and support obstacles. Jeff [1] Robert, please correct me if I'm wrong... - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/