Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754434AbXKJTEp (ORCPT ); Sat, 10 Nov 2007 14:04:45 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1753152AbXKJTEg (ORCPT ); Sat, 10 Nov 2007 14:04:36 -0500 Received: from srv5.dvmed.net ([207.36.208.214]:43772 "EHLO mail.dvmed.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752736AbXKJTEf (ORCPT ); Sat, 10 Nov 2007 14:04:35 -0500 Message-ID: <473600B6.5070103@garzik.org> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 14:04:22 -0500 From: Jeff Garzik User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (X11/20070727) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Allen Martin CC: Alan Cox , Mark Lord , Riki Oktarianto , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Greg Kroah-Hartman , linux-ide@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] Add quirk to set AHCI mode on ICH boards References: <20071109020235.GA2031@ceren> <20071109023129.GA25581@havoc.gtf.org> <4733D421.7000505@rtr.ca> <20071109034622.GB25581@havoc.gtf.org> <20071109120425.543971bf@the-village.bc.nu> <47351FE1.4000001@garzik.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -4.4 (----) X-Spam-Report: SpamAssassin version 3.1.9 on srv5.dvmed.net summary: Content analysis details: (-4.4 points, 5.0 required) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1569 Lines: 36 Allen Martin wrote: > At least for NVIDIA controllers, loading the AHCI driver when the BIOS > is set to IDE mode is not recommended by NVIDIA. Any AHCI workarounds > in the BIOS are likely to be disabled when set to IDE mode. In practice What workarounds, if any, are needed? We need those in the driver not BIOS anyway, in order to fully support suspend/resume and host controller reset during runtime operation. > we don't expect to see a lot of users running an AHCI controller in IDE > mode unless they have explicitly disabled AHCI from the BIOS or the > system builder has some specific reason for shipping IDE mode by default > (like support for some legacy DOS or Win9x tools) That's the situation we run into the most: the system is in IDE mode not because AHCI doesn't work, but for legacy compatibility. We even run into cases (MacBook, Dell servers) where the user is never offered the option to turn on AHCI, even though the silicon supports it. As such, the user winds up being forced to into the inferior mode for no reason related to their own setup (since they are obviously running Linux). In Linux at least, we have a bunch of open sata_nv issues, so forcing users' interface into AHCI mode as a default future policy seems like the most stable choice on NVIDIA AHCI platforms. Jeff - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/