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[2620:137:e000::3:1]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id iz19-20020a170902ef9300b001b9be3b94dfsi7602753plb.268.2023.09.24.08.46.54 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Sun, 24 Sep 2023 08:46:55 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::3:1 as permitted sender) client-ip=2620:137:e000::3:1; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@arinc9.com header.s=gm1 header.b=bmNdp5wi; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::3:1 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=arinc9.com Received: from out1.vger.email (depot.vger.email [IPv6:2620:137:e000::3:0]) by morse.vger.email (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B50A803211B; Fri, 22 Sep 2023 23:07:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.103.10 at morse.vger.email Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S229786AbjIWGHG (ORCPT + 99 others); Sat, 23 Sep 2023 02:07:06 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:53934 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S229541AbjIWGHE (ORCPT ); Sat, 23 Sep 2023 02:07:04 -0400 Received: from relay9-d.mail.gandi.net (relay9-d.mail.gandi.net [IPv6:2001:4b98:dc4:8::229]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 27909B9; Fri, 22 Sep 2023 23:06:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4B489FF803; Sat, 23 Sep 2023 06:06:33 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=arinc9.com; s=gm1; t=1695449214; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=4oWvaYHBJFJ7O18JZNgwdBYWtURWzzwNBvvz0evj8O0=; b=bmNdp5wiJX4kR9210Tg5h8vw/C+LDUgASJM+L38kQ5zwtSJ0ZsD5WjI9bmd3v1xtSTo34j Mnf1r6k/vB5tk/3r3l4oq9duEyJvLJ7rny5M6wl9Iam9s5L0nf8QruRA5UIvZupcUB25Rw NYW7dYS66SXbVxI6DOaCHewAiyMQH5CfkwBOBbG8/PF/gv/BgNlf3WGVEcOmnF3NXyr9mO R5ea45R4MivUVkJQhmKS7+ezlXx+dqp4PffhAsPxoTYAtYTPg9s9G0opA9kC9qeJt0Mbws tMFAq/inmnLXiz6AxYPTloye8TBYOFHrBu2N77AMkdxnGsYOFRw5tF3nwIDU3g== Message-ID: Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2023 09:06:28 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v2 00/10] define and enforce phylink bindings To: Andrew Lunn , "Russell King (Oracle)" Cc: Rob Herring , Krzysztof Kozlowski , "David S. Miller" , Eric Dumazet , Jakub Kicinski , Paolo Abeni , Conor Dooley , George McCollister , Florian Fainelli , Vladimir Oltean , Kurt Kanzenbach , Matthias Brugger , AngeloGioacchino Del Regno , Woojung Huh , UNGLinuxDriver@microchip.com, Linus Walleij , =?UTF-8?Q?Alvin_=C5=A0ipraga?= , =?UTF-8?B?Q2zDqW1lbnQgTMOpZ2Vy?= , Marcin Wojtas , Lars Povlsen , Steen Hegelund , Daniel Machon , Radhey Shyam Pandey , Daniel Golle , Landen Chao , DENG Qingfang , Sean Wang , Geert Uytterhoeven , Magnus Damm , Maxime Chevallier , Nicolas Ferre , Claudiu Beznea , Marek Vasut , Claudiu Manoil , Alexandre Belloni , John Crispin , Madalin Bucur , Ioana Ciornei , Lorenzo Bianconi , Felix Fietkau , Horatiu Vultur , Oleksij Rempel , Alexandre Torgue , Giuseppe Cavallaro , Jose Abreu , Grygorii Strashko , Sekhar Nori , Shyam Pandey , mithat.guner@xeront.com, erkin.bozoglu@xeront.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org, linux-renesas-soc@vger.kernel.org References: <20230916110902.234273-1-arinc.unal@arinc9.com> <6c1bb7df-34cd-4db9-95b6-959c87b68588@arinc9.com> Content-Language: en-US From: =?UTF-8?B?QXLEsW7DpyDDnE5BTA==?= In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GND-Sasl: arinc.unal@arinc9.com X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.7 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_SBL_CSS,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on morse.vger.email Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.4 (morse.vger.email [0.0.0.0]); Fri, 22 Sep 2023 23:07:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Level: ** On 23.09.2023 01:44, Andrew Lunn wrote: >> However, to dress this up as "phylink requires xyz, so lets create >> a phylink binding description" is just wrong. > > +1 > > Also, phylink is a Linux implementation detail. Other OSes using the > binding don't need to have phylink. Yet they can still use the DT > blobs because they should describe the hardware, independent of how > the OS drives that hardware. I haven't stated it directly but I've been agreeing to this fact since the start of the discussion on patch 7. Arınç