Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1761532AbXKMS4e (ORCPT ); Tue, 13 Nov 2007 13:56:34 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1756717AbXKMS4X (ORCPT ); Tue, 13 Nov 2007 13:56:23 -0500 Received: from thunk.org ([69.25.196.29]:37435 "EHLO thunker.thunk.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1755947AbXKMS4V (ORCPT ); Tue, 13 Nov 2007 13:56:21 -0500 Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 13:55:47 -0500 From: Theodore Tso To: Larry Finger Cc: Benoit Boissinot , Mark Lord , Ingo Molnar , Andrew Morton , David Miller , protasnb@gmail.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org, alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, linux-pcmcia@lists.infradead.org, linux-input@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz, bugme-daemon@bugzilla.kernel.org Subject: Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs Message-ID: <20071113185547.GC25824@thunk.org> Mail-Followup-To: Theodore Tso , Larry Finger , Benoit Boissinot , Mark Lord , Ingo Molnar , Andrew Morton , David Miller , protasnb@gmail.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org, alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, linux-pcmcia@lists.infradead.org, linux-input@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz, bugme-daemon@bugzilla.kernel.org References: <20071113031553.3c7b5c16.akpm@linux-foundation.org> <20071113.033946.114918709.davem@davemloft.net> <20071113034916.2556edd7.akpm@linux-foundation.org> <20071113.035824.40509981.davem@davemloft.net> <20071113041259.79c9a8c5.akpm@linux-foundation.org> <20071113134029.GA30978@elte.hu> <4739AFE0.20705@rtr.ca> <40f323d00711130752k19cab8eauc3456721274b3267@mail.gmail.com> <20071113171356.GA25824@thunk.org> <4739DFF8.3090702@lwfinger.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4739DFF8.3090702@lwfinger.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.15+20070412 (2007-04-11) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: tytso@thunk.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on thunker.thunk.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1336 Lines: 29 On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 11:33:44AM -0600, Larry Finger wrote: > I'm very encouraged to read of your expanded testing efforts. As a > bcm43xx developer, Ubuntu has been our problem distro, mostly > because your standard kernels have debugging turned off for bcm43xx. > When a Ubuntu user reports a problem and we ask for the relevant > output from dmesg, they have no information. I ask two things of all > distros: (1) Turn on debugging - we don't spam the logs that badly, > and (2) forward any bugs found by your testing to the maintainer, > and/or the bcm43xx mailing list. Heh. I hadn't enabled CONFIG_BCM43XX_DEBUG myself, but I just changed it for my next kernel build. This is a slightly different issue, which is that sometimes _DEBUG options shouldn't be turned on by default (because they really trash performance and bloat log size), and sometimes they are painless to turn on and don't cost much. If that is the case, I'd suggest removing the option and just making it compiled in by default with a run-time option to enable it. - Ted - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/