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See http://www.infradead.org/rpr.html X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on lindbergh.monkeyblade.net Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.4 (howler.vger.email [0.0.0.0]); Mon, 02 Oct 2023 01:50:21 -0700 (PDT) On Mon, Oct 02, 2023 at 10:36:01AM +0300, Jani Nikula wrote: > On Sun, 01 Oct 2023, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 29, 2023 at 09:24:57AM +0200, Thomas Wei?schuh wrote: > >> > This does not scale. > >> > >> Could you elaborate in which way it doesn't scale? > > > > If I send a modest cross-subsystem series it often touches 20+ > > subsystems. Between mailing lists and maintainers that's usually > > already 60+ recipients. If you now add a another 2-3 maintainers > > we're just going to hit limits in mail servers. > > I thought this was about adding people who have commented on previous > versions to Cc. That's usually a very limited number. Oh, that absolutely makes sense. But maybe we need to stop overloading the term reviewer :)