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[99.254.144.39]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id f5-20020a0cf3c5000000b0065cfec43097sm4215956qvm.39.2023.10.02.08.21.22 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Mon, 02 Oct 2023 08:21:23 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2023 11:21:20 -0400 From: Peter Xu To: David Hildenbrand Cc: Jann Horn , Suren Baghdasaryan , akpm@linux-foundation.org, viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, brauner@kernel.org, shuah@kernel.org, aarcange@redhat.com, lokeshgidra@google.com, hughd@google.com, mhocko@suse.com, axelrasmussen@google.com, rppt@kernel.org, willy@infradead.org, Liam.Howlett@oracle.com, zhangpeng362@huawei.com, bgeffon@google.com, kaleshsingh@google.com, ngeoffray@google.com, jdduke@google.com, linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org, kernel-team@android.com Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/3] userfaultfd: UFFDIO_REMAP uABI Message-ID: References: <20230923013148.1390521-1-surenb@google.com> <20230923013148.1390521-3-surenb@google.com> <03f95e90-82bd-6ee2-7c0d-d4dc5d3e15ee@redhat.com> <98b21e78-a90d-8b54-3659-e9b890be094f@redhat.com> <85e5390c-660c-ef9e-b415-00ee71bc5cbf@redhat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=DKIMWL_WL_HIGH,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on groat.vger.email Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.4 (groat.vger.email [0.0.0.0]); Mon, 02 Oct 2023 08:22:47 -0700 (PDT) On Mon, Oct 02, 2023 at 10:00:03AM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote: > In case we cannot simply remap the page, the fallback sequence (from the > cover letter) would be triggered. > > 1) UFFDIO_COPY > 2) MADV_DONTNEED > > So we would just handle the operation internally without a fallback. Note that I think there will be a slight difference on whole remap atomicity, on what happens if the page is modified after UFFDIO_COPY but before DONTNEED. UFFDIO_REMAP guarantees full atomicity when moving the page, IOW, threads can be updating the pages when ioctl(UFFDIO_REMAP), data won't get lost during movement, and it will generate a missing event after moved, with latest data showing up on dest. I'm not sure that means such a fallback is a problem, Suren may know better with the use case. Thanks, -- Peter Xu