Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sun, 23 Dec 2001 05:20:06 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sun, 23 Dec 2001 05:19:56 -0500 Received: from neon-gw-l3.transmeta.com ([63.209.4.196]:59653 "EHLO neon-gw.transmeta.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Sun, 23 Dec 2001 05:19:46 -0500 To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org From: "H. Peter Anvin" Subject: Re: AMD SC410 boot problems with recent kernels Date: 23 Dec 2001 02:19:32 -0800 Organization: Transmeta Corporation, Santa Clara CA Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Disclaimer: Not speaking for Transmeta in any way, shape, or form. Copyright: Copyright 2001 H. Peter Anvin - All Rights Reserved Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Followup to: By author: Robert Schwebel In newsgroup: linux.dev.kernel > > Could you elaborate why you think that the old code worked only by > accident? [please be patient - I'm no native speaker and it may be that I > do sometimes not understand everything correctly. I'm trying hard.] As I > said above: before I do not understand _why_ the new code breaks it's > rather difficult to draw conclusions. > > If the board is really _broken_ I have no problem with the fact that in > the future the manufacturer has either to supply a correct BIOS or a > workaround patch has to be used. If it's only uggly that there's no BIOS > routine it would IMHO be better to find a way to make it work again. There > are fixes for other uggly architectures in the code as well, see the > Toshiba Laptop reference. If the board may be PC compatible, Linux should > IMHO boot without further changes. > The weird part about your board is that the code clearly *works*, or your kernel wouldn't boot at all. It somehow poisons the system, though, and that's utterly bizarre. I don't think this is debuggable without access to hardware (and maybe not even then.) -hpa -- at work, in private! "Unix gives you enough rope to shoot yourself in the foot." http://www.zytor.com/~hpa/puzzle.txt - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/