Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932651AbXKOTnV (ORCPT ); Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:43:21 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1763493AbXKOTnJ (ORCPT ); Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:43:09 -0500 Received: from pentafluge.infradead.org ([213.146.154.40]:43065 "EHLO pentafluge.infradead.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752288AbXKOTnG (ORCPT ); Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:43:06 -0500 Subject: Re: [RFC] fuse writable mmap design From: Peter Zijlstra To: Miklos Szeredi Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org In-Reply-To: References: <1195154530.22457.16.camel@lappy> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:42:38 +0100 Message-Id: <1195155759.22457.29.camel@lappy> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1333 Lines: 33 On Thu, 2007-11-15 at 20:37 +0100, Miklos Szeredi wrote: > > I'm somewhat confused by the complexity. Currently we can already have a > > lot of dirty pages from FUSE (up to the per BDI dirty limit - so > > basically up to the total dirty limit). > > > > How is having them dirty from mmap'ed writes different? > > Nope, fuse never had dirty pages. It does normal writes > synchronously, just updating the cache. > > The dirty accounting and then the per-bdi throttling basically made it > possible _at_all_ to have a chance at a writepage implementation which > is not deadlocky (so thanks for those ;). > > But there's still the throttle_vm_writeout() thing, and the other > places where the kernel is waiting for a write to complete, which just > cannot be done within a constrained time if an unprivileged userspace > process is involved. Ah, ok, your initial story missed this part (not being intimately familiar with FUSE made all that somewhat obscure). The next point then, I'd expect your fuse_page_mkwrite() to push writeout of your 32-odd mmap pages instead of poll. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/