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[23.128.96.37]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id mq8-20020a17090b380800b0027b436159b0si10147072pjb.165.2023.10.11.03.32.14 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 11 Oct 2023 03:32:15 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.37 as permitted sender) client-ip=23.128.96.37; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@kernel.org header.s=k20201202 header.b=CYMpOSJ1; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.37 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=kernel.org Received: from out1.vger.email (depot.vger.email [IPv6:2620:137:e000::3:0]) by snail.vger.email (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2963F807217B; Wed, 11 Oct 2023 03:32:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.103.10 at snail.vger.email Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1345779AbjJKKcJ (ORCPT + 99 others); Wed, 11 Oct 2023 06:32:09 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:34774 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S231628AbjJKKcI (ORCPT ); Wed, 11 Oct 2023 06:32:08 -0400 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (relay.kernel.org [52.25.139.140]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0458294; Wed, 11 Oct 2023 03:32:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7F1F8C433C8; Wed, 11 Oct 2023 10:32:03 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1697020326; bh=YpVnFf88K6rUjKFbnY+e3X6H6+xalRDI8tt76wKoDSE=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=CYMpOSJ1oBCEb9hjmwBTRVPjGnkNUa/B1J8J/u6Wi0AetVlMO4B00Oa9TGtB+0mip Kahn9CI3WeICx7rspMYweeHhRPc2aYB0cap+4RwcDDVJ4VLAnErEeSPnql99DIMT28 fhTnCDKIJb6uRod2yFaAf7B7CZppj7HJRU9sIYxFmUcvlCZY8mejyPCGBMY5gzhxlA gNNEbcNN3RVR4jz3FYMOxbRkfcYysBiePpdLfoZ0d9y0QRF/SoVyDtnGDN20HbY9Dw w6/uxycQMHCDEM9GkWnUEpYwP60yUDB1erG287tZT7oVWJfCEl8RMUrDWdLdAdpiG1 UNY08Ms6PNvBw== From: Kalle Valo To: Phil Elwell Cc: Neal Gompa , Hector Martin , Dmitry Antipov , "linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org" , "lvc-project@linuxtesting.org" , Arend van Spriel , Franky Lin , Hante Meuleman , SHA-cyfmac-dev-list@infineon.com, brcm80211-dev-list.pdl@broadcom.com, Asahi Linux , LKML , Julian Calaby , Linus Torvalds Subject: Re: On brcm80211 maintenance and support References: <6f78e624-62ee-3ae5-1db4-a0411566def8@yandex.ru> <87ttr454bh.fsf@kernel.org> <3c5a3e7a-b332-4a77-51ba-bed3cad1e79f@marcan.st> Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2023 13:32:01 +0300 In-Reply-To: (Phil Elwell's message of "Tue, 10 Oct 2023 16:35:37 +0100") Message-ID: <87a5sp4fha.fsf@kernel.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIMWL_WL_HIGH, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on lindbergh.monkeyblade.net Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.4 (snail.vger.email [0.0.0.0]); Wed, 11 Oct 2023 03:32:14 -0700 (PDT) Phil Elwell writes: > This is just a quick note to say that Raspberry Pi obviously has a > vested interest in the future of the brcmfmac driver. In our > downstream tree we use the upstream driver largely unmodified - there > are a handful of patches that tinker around the edges, the largest of > which is in the area of firmware location and being phased out - no > patches from Infineon/Cypress, Synaptics or Broadcom. > > We're very much WiFi users as opposed to WiFi developers, but if > there's something useful we can contribute then please speak up and > I'll see what we can do. Is it possible to run upstream vanilla kernels on a Raspberry Pi? For example at least once a month take latest wireless-next[1], install it to a Raspberry Pi and run some simple wireless tests. If any regressions are found report that to linux-wireless. Preferably with a bisect log to easily find the offending commit. Testing patches before they are applied would be even more helpful, especially for the risky ones. We have a hard "no regressions" rule so earlier we catch the regressions the better. I also wonder should there be a dedicated brcm80211 specific mailing list? That way people who want to help could easily follow and discuss brcm80211 development, and no need to follow linux-wireless. For example we do that with ath12k driver. [1] https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/wireless/wireless-next.git/ -- https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/linux-wireless/list/ https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/developers/documentation/submittingpatches