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Thu, 12 Oct 2023 01:03:41 -0700 (PDT) On Wed, 2023-10-11 at 20:08 -0400, Mimi Zohar wrote: > gOn Mon, 2023-09-04 at 15:34 +0200, Roberto Sassu wrote: > > From: Roberto Sassu > > > > In preparation for moving IMA and EVM to the LSM infrastructure, introduce > > the inode_post_setattr hook. > > > > It is useful for EVM to recalculate the HMAC on modified file attributes > > and other file metadata, after it verified the HMAC of current file > > metadata with the inode_setattr hook. > > "useful"? > > At inode_setattr hook, EVM verifies the file's existing HMAC value. At > inode_post_setattr, EVM re-calculates the file's HMAC based on the > modified file attributes and other file metadata. > > > > > LSMs should use the new hook instead of inode_setattr, when they need to > > know that the operation was done successfully (not known in inode_setattr). > > The new hook cannot return an error and cannot cause the operation to be > > reverted. > > Other LSMs could similarly update security xattrs or ... I added your sentence. The one above is to satisfy Casey's request to justify the addition of the new hook, and to explain why inode_setattr is not sufficient. Thanks Roberto > > > > Signed-off-by: Roberto Sassu > > Reviewed-by: Mimi Zohar