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Miller" , "Larry Finger" , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-staging@lists.linux.dev Subject: Re: [PATCH] [RFC] wireless: move obsolete drivers to staging Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on morse.vger.email Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.4 (morse.vger.email [0.0.0.0]); Thu, 12 Oct 2023 07:37:16 -0700 (PDT) On Thu, Oct 12, 2023, at 13:47, Kalle Valo wrote: > > Is anyone willing to submit patches? Use wireless-next as the baseline > for patches and one driver per commit, please. That way it's easy to > revert later, if needed (hopefully not). I can do it, I've already done most of the work for moving the drivers, so I just need to split up my existing patch and leave out the bits that get added to drivers/staging. I'll also send Greg a patch to remove rtl8192u now that we know that this has been broken for 7 years. Similarly, I'd include another patch to remove PCMCIA support for libertas, as that would otherwise be the only remaining 16-bit PCMCIA wlan card, and I could find no indication of this one ever being popular, unlike the USB/SDIO/SPI variants of the same device or the other PCMCIA drivers. This would leave only a handful of wext implementations in the tree: ipw2x00, ps3-gelic-wireless, staging/rtl8712, staging/rtl8192e and staging/ks7010. Since ipw2x00 is apparently still supported in theory and was rather popular on Pentium-M based systems 20 years ago, this may still need to be converted to cfg80211 before you can remove support for wext style drivers altogether. ps3-gelic-wireless and rtl8712 are also still maintained but have a much smaller user base I assume. Arnd