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Miller" , "Larry Finger" , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-staging@lists.linux.dev Subject: Re: [PATCH] [RFC] wireless: move obsolete drivers to staging References: <20231010155444.858483-1-arnd@kernel.org> <2023101051-unmasked-cleaver-79b3@gregkh> <87y1g94szz.fsf@kernel.org> <2023101139-pyromania-game-2237@gregkh> <87r0m1fwg9.fsf@kernel.org> <20231011080955.1beeb010@kernel.org> <87sf6g2hc8.fsf@kernel.org> <63e57ef8-c9f2-489a-8df8-51dcffd437c6@app.fastmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2023 17:48:47 +0300 In-Reply-To: <63e57ef8-c9f2-489a-8df8-51dcffd437c6@app.fastmail.com> (Arnd Bergmann's message of "Thu, 12 Oct 2023 16:36:26 +0200") Message-ID: <87fs2fgals.fsf@kernel.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 required=5.0 tests=DKIMWL_WL_HIGH,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on howler.vger.email Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.4 (howler.vger.email [0.0.0.0]); Thu, 12 Oct 2023 07:46:35 -0700 (PDT) "Arnd Bergmann" writes: > On Thu, Oct 12, 2023, at 13:47, Kalle Valo wrote: >> >> Is anyone willing to submit patches? Use wireless-next as the baseline >> for patches and one driver per commit, please. That way it's easy to >> revert later, if needed (hopefully not). > > I can do it, I've already done most of the work for moving the > drivers, so I just need to split up my existing patch and leave out > the bits that get added to drivers/staging. Awesome, thank you! > I'll also send Greg a patch to remove rtl8192u now that we know > that this has been broken for 7 years. Similarly, I'd include > another patch to remove PCMCIA support for libertas, as that > would otherwise be the only remaining 16-bit PCMCIA wlan card, > and I could find no indication of this one ever being popular, > unlike the USB/SDIO/SPI variants of the same device or the > other PCMCIA drivers. > > This would leave only a handful of wext implementations in the > tree: ipw2x00, ps3-gelic-wireless, staging/rtl8712, staging/rtl8192e > and staging/ks7010. Since ipw2x00 is apparently still supported > in theory and was rather popular on Pentium-M based systems 20 > years ago, this may still need to be converted to cfg80211 > before you can remove support for wext style drivers altogether. > ps3-gelic-wireless and rtl8712 are also still maintained but have > a much smaller user base I assume. Actually I would prefer to remove ipw2x00 and ps3-gelic-wireless as well. I have not seen any evidence that there would be users for those drivers. If we find out that there really are users I can easily add the drivers back. The faster we get rid of wext the better, it really needs to go away. -- https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/linux-wireless/list/ https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/developers/documentation/submittingpatches