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[2620:137:e000::3:2]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z16-20020a656650000000b00573fbbb7803si2829494pgv.613.2023.10.12.13.47.52 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 12 Oct 2023 13:47:53 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::3:2 as permitted sender) client-ip=2620:137:e000::3:2; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@kernel.org header.s=k20201202 header.b=jwW6XONp; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::3:2 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=kernel.org Received: from out1.vger.email (depot.vger.email [IPv6:2620:137:e000::3:0]) by agentk.vger.email (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E490801BCB6; Thu, 12 Oct 2023 13:47:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.103.10 at agentk.vger.email Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1442670AbjJLUro (ORCPT + 99 others); Thu, 12 Oct 2023 16:47:44 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:54082 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1344079AbjJLUrn (ORCPT ); Thu, 12 Oct 2023 16:47:43 -0400 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (relay.kernel.org [52.25.139.140]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C4DFEBB for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2023 13:47:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C6D11C433C7; Thu, 12 Oct 2023 20:47:40 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1697143662; bh=aRI71YpV2+d2IfU0eZ+HabZAmiGR+yyp2A4+ZTsQCm8=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=jwW6XONp9+IMeAdLC1MyMWFkTL/L1Hr+ur2t+B5NP0UUDc9ONKaqHTzvv0oxqvS9/ /jXz/mBCECQ846jut7nzwMpEVmoV4xcaSarxfTXPF9zQUCeLVeXpWbQSGeWElukxpH hmK9Xu879p9WIcxTglg170fsF1NK+WWmRk+1etdS2+gsznWZdx4SghDduB8FUkFTTI D5aLPEDFrX/Ew+4GELA8rAyIl0CXXsS9jBSxEzf4TvcKz0L3tTGLy3DfL+c4iBoH8Y V9I7A1mtfNwuYaOTFpgho6RY5aglBHpgGTC2DZO9Cw9eDAHayKrqnTF0tLqIkf0Fdz OpimIrub0090Q== Received: (nullmailer pid 1712886 invoked by uid 1000); Thu, 12 Oct 2023 20:47:39 -0000 Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2023 15:47:39 -0500 From: Rob Herring To: Mark Brown Cc: Chancel Liu , lgirdwood@gmail.com, krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org, conor+dt@kernel.org, shengjiu.wang@gmail.com, Xiubo.Lee@gmail.com, festevam@gmail.com, nicoleotsuka@gmail.com, perex@perex.cz, tiwai@suse.com, shawnguo@kernel.org, s.hauer@pengutronix.de, kernel@pengutronix.de, alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/2] ASoC: dt-bindings: sound-card-common: List DAPM endpoints ignoring system suspend Message-ID: <20231012204739.GA1706264-robh@kernel.org> References: <20231011114759.1073757-1-chancel.liu@nxp.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 required=5.0 tests=DKIMWL_WL_HIGH,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on agentk.vger.email Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.4 (agentk.vger.email [0.0.0.0]); Thu, 12 Oct 2023 13:47:50 -0700 (PDT) On Wed, Oct 11, 2023 at 10:21:33PM +0100, Mark Brown wrote: > On Wed, Oct 11, 2023 at 07:47:58PM +0800, Chancel Liu wrote: > > > + lpa-widgets: > > + $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/non-unique-string-array > > + description: | > > + A list of DAPM endpoints which mark paths between these endpoints should > > + not be disabled when system enters in suspend state. LPA means low power > > + audio case. For example on asymmetric multiprocessor, there are Cortex-A > > I suspect that the DT maintainers would prefer that this description be > workshopped a bit to remove the Linux specifics. And Cortex A/M specifics if this is a common binding. > I think the key thing > here is that these are endpoints that can be active over suspend of the > main application processor that the current operating system is running > (system DT stuff is an interesting corner case here...), and the example > is probably a bit specific. Other bindings use "audio sound widgets" > rather than "DAPM widgets". > > We also shouldn't see that these endpoints "should not be disabled" > since that implies that they should be left on even if they aren't > active which isn't quite the case, instead it's that we can continue > playing an audio stream through them in suspend. This seems like one of those things that everyone has/does, and everyone handles it a bit differently. I applaud trying to do something common, but it isn't really common until we have multiple users. Rob