Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1761611AbXKPTjt (ORCPT ); Fri, 16 Nov 2007 14:39:49 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752891AbXKPTjm (ORCPT ); Fri, 16 Nov 2007 14:39:42 -0500 Received: from lazybastard.de ([212.112.238.170]:54091 "EHLO longford.lazybastard.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751174AbXKPTjl (ORCPT ); Fri, 16 Nov 2007 14:39:41 -0500 Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 20:34:32 +0100 From: =?utf-8?B?SsO2cm4=?= Engel To: "H. Peter Anvin" Cc: Lee Revell , Stefan Monnier , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Treat disk space like memory space Message-ID: <20071116193432.GD17372@lazybastard.org> References: <75b66ecd0711151624n476d2e83xd1acbb23a5bffcf0@mail.gmail.com> <473DE1B4.8090703@zytor.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <473DE1B4.8090703@zytor.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1203 Lines: 27 On Fri, 16 November 2007 10:30:12 -0800, H. Peter Anvin wrote: > > This, by the way, has been discussed on and off -- often in the context > of undelete (which is an identical problem.) The problem usually is > that performance of real storage users suffer because of locality > issues. However, flash storage doesn't have locality requirements... It does, although significantly less so than disks. Read latency is typically between 100x and 1000x less than disk latency. Another argument against this is that free space directly translates to speed, both for disks and flash. Disk filesystems fragment like hell if the disk is constanly near-full and flash filesystems require a lot more garbage collection overhead. Jörn -- To my face you have the audacity to advise me to become a thief - the worst kind of thief that is conceivable, a thief of spiritual things, a thief of ideas! It is insufferable, intolerable! -- M. Binet in Scarabouche - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/