Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Mon, 24 Dec 2001 13:22:32 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Mon, 24 Dec 2001 13:22:23 -0500 Received: from otter.mbay.net ([206.40.79.2]:57609 "EHLO otter.mbay.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Mon, 24 Dec 2001 13:22:06 -0500 Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2001 10:21:52 -0800 (PST) From: John Alvord To: David Lang cc: Matthew Johnson , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Maybe I have a bad day or something In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Think of L-K as a very lossy communications path where lots of retries are necessary. john On Mon, 24 Dec 2001, David Lang wrote: > response to questions does vary drasticly, I've been reading the list for > almost 5 years now and while I seldom post most of the time I get an > immediate response (unfortunantly sometimes I can't folow up immediatly > with the requested info). When I don't get a response for a few days I try > to get more detail on the problem and repost, eventually I do get some > response. > > one thing to remember about posting here. if you get a response that is > just wrong, argue back, point out why it's wrong. Everyone on this list > (up to and including Linus) makes mistakes and dismisses stuff to quickly > at times. some questions get asked frequently enough that they have a > canned answer (useing binary only modules and reporting a bug for example) > but most of the time there is a real answer eventually. > > David Lang > > > On Mon, 24 Dec 2001, Matthew Johnson wrote: > > > Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2001 08:11:28 -0800 > > From: Matthew Johnson > > To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org > > Subject: Re: Maybe I have a bad day or something > > > > On Monday 24 December 2001 06:23 am, Pat Villani wrote: > > > You're not alone. Frankly, I just skim the subjects and some messages to > > > figure out whether or not to read further. > > > > > > Don't get discouraged. There are way more readers who don't post than the > > > vocal minority who whine about coding styles or why Linus didn't pick up > > > their patch. I found this out a while ago. I wrote the original FreeDOS > > > code and ran into this constantly. I admire Linus for not letting it get > > > him down; it did for me. I eventually quit the project altogether, > > > disgusted with the bozos. > > > > > > > I am one of those readers that don't post, well to now. I don't want to make > > a fool out of myself, plus nothing yet has really piqued my interest and I > > never went to University to do CS or CE, played too much Rugby instead (but I > > want to go sometime perhaps), so my prgramming really is not up to scratch > > yet. Perhaps this is reflected on others too. Not above beta testing of > > course. > > > > Whining occurs pretty much everywhere, not just here. As this is an open and > > free development perhaps people feel free to be a little less professional in > > their words, rather than just reporting facts. Linus seems to be very Hobbit > > like, very humble indeed. Only Linus probably knows why it does not seem to > > get him down. > > > > > > > Well, I know I'm going to get flames on this one. That's OK, it'll keep me > > > warm this Christmas. May everyone have a safe and happy Holiday Season. > > > > > > > Nope, they may let you freeze instead. Happy Christmas and New Year to > > everyone, may 2002 be very much more successful than 2001. 2001 was probably > > jinxed due to Arthur C Clark anyway... > > > > > Pat > > > > Matt > > - > > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in > > the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org > > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html > > Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ > > > - > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in > the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html > Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ > - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/