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[23.128.96.33]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id m62-20020a632641000000b00578d460cd7esi903618pgm.431.2023.10.31.04.50.59 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 31 Oct 2023 04:50:59 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.33 as permitted sender) client-ip=23.128.96.33; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.33 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=fail (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=arm.com Received: from out1.vger.email (depot.vger.email [IPv6:2620:137:e000::3:0]) by lipwig.vger.email (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A44E80310DE; Tue, 31 Oct 2023 04:50:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.103.10 at lipwig.vger.email Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1344073AbjJaLum (ORCPT + 99 others); Tue, 31 Oct 2023 07:50:42 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:41272 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1344048AbjJaLul (ORCPT ); Tue, 31 Oct 2023 07:50:41 -0400 Received: from foss.arm.com (foss.arm.com [217.140.110.172]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E614C91 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2023 04:50:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from usa-sjc-imap-foss1.foss.arm.com (unknown [10.121.207.14]) by usa-sjc-mx-foss1.foss.arm.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56E36C15; Tue, 31 Oct 2023 04:51:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.1.34.180] (XHFQ2J9959.cambridge.arm.com [10.1.34.180]) by usa-sjc-imap-foss1.foss.arm.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5CE4B3F64C; Tue, 31 Oct 2023 04:50:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <7a3a2d49-528d-4297-ae19-56aa9e6c59c6@arm.com> Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2023 11:50:34 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 0/9] variable-order, large folios for anonymous memory Content-Language: en-GB To: David Hildenbrand , Andrew Morton , Matthew Wilcox , Yin Fengwei , Yu Zhao , Catalin Marinas , Anshuman Khandual , Yang Shi , "Huang, Ying" , Zi Yan , Luis Chamberlain , Itaru Kitayama , "Kirill A. Shutemov" , John Hubbard , David Rientjes , Vlastimil Babka , Hugh Dickins Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org References: <20230929114421.3761121-1-ryan.roberts@arm.com> <6d89fdc9-ef55-d44e-bf12-fafff318aef8@redhat.com> From: Ryan Roberts In-Reply-To: <6d89fdc9-ef55-d44e-bf12-fafff318aef8@redhat.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on lipwig.vger.email Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.4 (lipwig.vger.email [0.0.0.0]); Tue, 31 Oct 2023 04:50:57 -0700 (PDT) On 06/10/2023 21:06, David Hildenbrand wrote: [...] > > Change 2: sysfs interface. > > If we call it THP, it shall go under "/sys/kernel/mm/transparent_hugepage/", I > agree. > > What we expose there and how, is TBD. Again, not a friend of "orders" and > bitmaps at all. We can do better if we want to go down that path. > > Maybe we should take a look at hugetlb, and how they added support for multiple > sizes. What *might* make sense could be (depending on which values we actually > support!) > > > /sys/kernel/mm/transparent_hugepage/hugepages-64kB/ > /sys/kernel/mm/transparent_hugepage/hugepages-128kB/ > /sys/kernel/mm/transparent_hugepage/hugepages-256kB/ > /sys/kernel/mm/transparent_hugepage/hugepages-512kB/ > /sys/kernel/mm/transparent_hugepage/hugepages-1024kB/ > /sys/kernel/mm/transparent_hugepage/hugepages-2048kB/ > > Each one would contain an "enabled" and "defrag" file. We want something minimal > first? Start with the "enabled" option. > > > enabled: always [global] madvise never > > Initially, we would set it for PMD-sized THP to "global" and for everything else > to "never". Hi David, I've just started coding this, and it occurs to me that I might need a small clarification here; the existing global "enabled" control is used to drive decisions for both anonymous memory and (non-shmem) file-backed memory. But the proposed new per-size "enabled" is implicitly only controlling anon memory (for now). 1) Is this potentially confusing for the user? Should we rename the per-size controls to "anon_enabled"? Or is it preferable to jsut keep it vague for now so we can reuse the same control for file-backed memory in future? 2) The global control will continue to drive the file-backed memory decision (for now), even when hugepages-2048kB/enabled != "global"; agreed? Thanks, Ryan