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Subject: Re: [PATCH] KVM: x86/xen: improve accuracy of Xen timers
From:   David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
To:     paul@xen.org, Paul Durrant <xadimgnik@gmail.com>,
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On Tue, 2023-10-31 at 12:22 +0000, Paul Durrant wrote:
>=20
> >=20
> > As I said, this patch stands even *after* we fix kvmclock, because
> > it handles the timer delta calculation from an single TSC read.
> >=20
> > But overengineering a timer reset on KVM_REQ_CLOCK_UPDATE would not.
>=20
> I'm not sure what you intend to do to kvmlock, so not sure whether we'll=
=20
> still need the __pvclock_read_cycles(&vcpu->arch.hv_clock, guest_tsc)
> but this patch (with the extra check on validity of hv_clock) does fix=
=20
> the drift so...
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> Reviewed-by: Paul Durrant <paul@xen.org>

Ta. And no, I'm not quite sure what I'm going to do with kvmclock for
the general case yet. The more I look at it, the more I realise how
broken it is.

Last week I thought it was just about the way KVM 'jumps' the kvmclock
and yanks it back to the host's CLOCK_MONOTONIC_RAW, but I thought KVM
at *least* managed to do it right between those times. But no, this
patch is addressing the fact that even *without* those clock jumps, KVM
doesn't manage to calculate the guest clock the same way that it tells
the guest to... and thus doesn't get the same results :)

I think it involves get_kvmclock_ns() using the frequency given in the
KVM-wide (not per-vCPU) KVM_SET_TSC_KHZ ioctl, and scaling via that to
get the guest clock. That should match, without having to have a
specific vCPU's hv_clock to play with. And maybe we can also have a
get_kvmclock_ns_at() which takes a host TSC value, and the timer code
from this patch can use that instead of using __pvclock_read_cycles()
directly.

That's probably the easy part. Fixing the 'resync' to
CLOCK_MONOTONIC_RAW, while keeping things working for the now-
considered-pathological !CONSTANT_TSC case, will be slightly more fun.
As well as suspend etc. in the CONSTANT_TSC case, of course.

And replacing that stupid KVM_CLOCK_REALTIME with something that uses
CLOCK_TAI. Or maybe just making it export the tai_offset at the same
moment?

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