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charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT User-Agent: Evolution 3.50.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de X-Originating-IP: 93.197.82.153 X-ZEDAT-Hint: PO X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on groat.vger.email Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.4 (groat.vger.email [0.0.0.0]); Thu, 02 Nov 2023 10:37:31 -0700 (PDT) Hi Linus! On Thu, 2023-11-02 at 07:28 -1000, Linus Torvalds wrote: > That said, I'd be willing to resurrect itanium support, even though I > personally despise the architecture with a passion for being > fundamentally based on faulty design premises, and an implementation > based on politics rather than good technical design. This made my day. :-) > But only if it turns out to actually have some long-term active > interest (ie I'd compare it to the situation with m68k etc - clearly > dead architectures that we still support despite them being not > relevant - because some people care and they don't cause pain). Fully agreed. > So I'd be willing to come back to the "can we resurrect it" > discussion, but not immediately - more along the lines of a "look, > we've been maintaining it out of tree for a year, the other > infrastructure is still alive, there is no impact on the rest of the > kernel, can we please try again"? I think this is a very reasonable approach. If the keeping the architecture alive is sustainable, it should be possible to do that out of tree for a given period of time. Thanks, Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer `. `' Physicist `- GPG: 62FF 8A75 84E0 2956 9546 0006 7426 3B37 F5B5 F913