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[23.128.96.37]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q22-20020a170902b11600b001cc11902882si406672plr.641.2023.11.02.16.30.03 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 02 Nov 2023 16:30:03 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.37 as permitted sender) client-ip=23.128.96.37; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@google.com header.s=20230601 header.b=zCIKELSS; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.37 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=REJECT sp=REJECT dis=NONE) header.from=google.com Received: from out1.vger.email (depot.vger.email [IPv6:2620:137:e000::3:0]) by snail.vger.email (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1CD682F3494; Thu, 2 Nov 2023 16:30:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.103.10 at snail.vger.email Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S229570AbjKBXWe (ORCPT + 99 others); Thu, 2 Nov 2023 19:22:34 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:55940 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S229459AbjKBXWd (ORCPT ); Thu, 2 Nov 2023 19:22:33 -0400 Received: from mail-yw1-x114a.google.com (mail-yw1-x114a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::114a]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BB1ED13E for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2023 16:22:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-yw1-x114a.google.com with SMTP id 00721157ae682-5af9b0850fdso20564387b3.1 for ; Thu, 02 Nov 2023 16:22:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20230601; t=1698967350; x=1699572150; darn=vger.kernel.org; h=cc:to:from:subject:message-id:references:mime-version:in-reply-to :date:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=8YRkB8htpyDPTu6BgYSX0PLd58VnN26LAJgP50Ott6I=; b=zCIKELSSbx95KtavTspW4KdKDJgIf1MadCCL3+dncSnAH6dDxDEol72AJReT+zBGEN zOA/x59duzPx24gsj3uvZjaMPD5WAFlPQvQD5SQ5c7+nNzABmNNW9yQDgiaHQpiMBIgb A+r0ixHj4K2elL+vaIRsuNsBOgJPWnBQYdigZBZdVAW2sDg+5oRHNLcv95pDVIliROFH xbGg0axSBAYiJOpKSiRVnp4EWUibkskOI2GjkJWw9ZOl7G3Fx82atei0GXDFgzbqGDT6 fm3CCb0GL1MC7IhRxg1/dHoeUxJ1JXMKRqY6JCe1IvrlrloNxUdEI28EusT+SldLnFsQ uMjA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1698967350; x=1699572150; h=cc:to:from:subject:message-id:references:mime-version:in-reply-to :date:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=8YRkB8htpyDPTu6BgYSX0PLd58VnN26LAJgP50Ott6I=; b=LbWEns1IUR/EnbwmMNAh+MqqYsWb3Ur3f3QjtApNkhM6NPI1sGk08+oNYrbWQjSh/p kMAKsAxESyG2EeDmZ3pKB84v3FpE0voz8ZdPUCLlX4inmSqMdrq+og0A79zAmzb2wkeL w6khI0f/c/ynU5fqg4UL94L4JtCXwOnvCfU1MnyG0Qh4yqQOaQK7qSx7AgQsXSq9VQtm HYBcj9ZzSFbuVSFfd+zycwmFaAFIDokza/fBiOVXLhYMJdh8kir5HF9kBnf1T+xjGDq/ Ii1fgjEJoQQY6YZxEOK+r+Rs0JdrydMugriX3BXWP2fd92QHdkxpp8p9T5BObD9F64si y4Hw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yzt5Ls+tJBj7lqartXxWSxGLhlQobPz+OIw8ono7kvqDg687OoQ sZDmJxBeOuevfwGilEAfcV47dWmcxuU= X-Received: from zagreus.c.googlers.com ([fda3:e722:ac3:cc00:7f:e700:c0a8:5c37]) (user=seanjc job=sendgmr) by 2002:a81:830d:0:b0:576:af04:3495 with SMTP id t13-20020a81830d000000b00576af043495mr19461ywf.9.1698967349975; Thu, 02 Nov 2023 16:22:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2023 16:22:28 -0700 In-Reply-To: <5e413e05de559971cdc2d1a9281a8a271590f62b.camel@redhat.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <20231010200220.897953-1-john.allen@amd.com> <20231010200220.897953-7-john.allen@amd.com> <5e413e05de559971cdc2d1a9281a8a271590f62b.camel@redhat.com> Message-ID: Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/9] KVM: SVM: Add MSR_IA32_XSS to the GHCB for hypervisor kernel From: Sean Christopherson To: Maxim Levitsky Cc: John Allen , kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, pbonzini@redhat.com, weijiang.yang@intel.com, rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com, x86@kernel.org, thomas.lendacky@amd.com, bp@alien8.de Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Spam-Status: No, score=-9.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIMWL_WL_MED, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE,USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on lindbergh.monkeyblade.net Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.4 (snail.vger.email [0.0.0.0]); Thu, 02 Nov 2023 16:30:03 -0700 (PDT) On Thu, Nov 02, 2023, Maxim Levitsky wrote: > On Tue, 2023-10-10 at 20:02 +0000, John Allen wrote: > > @@ -3032,6 +3037,9 @@ static void sev_es_init_vmcb(struct vcpu_svm *svm) > > if (guest_cpuid_has(&svm->vcpu, X86_FEATURE_RDTSCP)) > > svm_clr_intercept(svm, INTERCEPT_RDTSCP); > > } > > + > > + if (kvm_caps.supported_xss) > > + set_msr_interception(vcpu, svm->msrpm, MSR_IA32_XSS, 1, 1); > > This is not just a virtualization hole. This allows the guest to set MSR_IA32_XSS > to whatever value it wants, and thus it might allow XSAVES to access some host msrs > that guest must not be able to access. > > AMD might not yet have such msrs, but on Intel side I do see various components > like 'HDC State', 'HWP state' and such. The approach AMD has taken with SEV-ES+ is to have ucode context switch everything that the guest can access. So, in theory, if/when AMD adds more XCR0/XSS-based features, that state will also be context switched. Don't get me wrong, I hate this with a passion, but it's not *quite* fatally unsafe, just horrific. > I understand that this is needed so that #VC handler could read this msr, and > trying to read it will cause another #VC which is probably not allowed (I > don't know this detail of SEV-ES) > > I guess #VC handler should instead use a kernel cached value of this msr > instead, or at least KVM should only allow reads and not writes to it. Nope, doesn't work. In addition to automatically context switching state, SEV-ES also encrypts the guest state, i.e. KVM *can't* correctly virtualize XSS (or XCR0) for the guest, because KVM *can't* load the guest's desired value into hardware. The guest can do #VMGEXIT (a.k.a. VMMCALL) all it wants to request a certain XSS or XCR0, and there's not a damn thing KVM can do to service the request.